myroslav marinovych. in his opinion, ukraine has every chance to win this war, why exactly. also, marinovych told in an interview that any evil should be punished. today we are talking with myroslav marinovych poliuscle of the soviet union, vice-rector of the ukrainian catholic university and a ukrainian public intellectual. myroslav, i greet you. i would like to start with such a question before on february 24, we even discussed the problems of ukrainian civil society with you. so we talked about where they are not working, where they don't understand us, where uh , that is, it contradicts us. is this networking, was it a reaction to the fact that bombs were dropped on ukraine , bombs were dropped on all of ukraine, or were we actually? that is, it all existed, there was simply no chance to see how these networks work, eh. i think the same effect worked. eh, what was so expressive on the maidan, eh, because it really is, and even during the maidan, it was impressive that the people who could be completely passive and the politicians did not know what to do with them, suddenly at one moment, eh, got down to work and got down to work not because some order passed, some command from the authoritar