my name is myroslava barchuk, these are my own names, a project of ukrainian foam and the espresso tv. today my guest is daria girna, director of the liberation movement research center, tv presenter, daria, journalist. greetings, good evening. greetings, ms. myroslava. it is very nice to be with you today, each other . e i know that and everyone knows that you are researching the liberation movement and you e hmm made a whole big a-a cycle of conversation with dissidents of the face of independence and today we will talk about dissidents e about why e texts of ukrainian dissidents of the soviet era unread and their voices are not heard, this is a bit of a categorical judgment, but i will insist that it is so from my point of view, it is so and from my conversations and communication with many dissidents, it is so, and it seems to me that these people who are in fact, in the 1960s, we generally speak of the sixties, so people who stood up for the defense of freedom of speech a-a national e-e national culture of the ukrainian language e-e ukrainian church, for this they succumbed to th