this cannot be about the un, or it cannot be just about the humanitarian 2nd to the n g o is the institutions that have that have run so much, not tearing work in the last few decades. i believe is a movement out that of billions of people who haven't lost that ability to capture those who are in doris need across the planet. we're just gonna find them. you'll note about the 100 day mock in, in this job and you've been traveling for lots of that time in february. you went to, gosh, now you are very experienced. well, traveled, an a diploma search for your country before you took this job. you've seen the damage and poverty and suffering before. have you ever seen anything like you saw and gone so? no stuff um and you're trying to prepare yourself for a visit like that. you told people the pain, but nothing can prepare you for that. i fear the west and it was much less than i anticipated. you know, i crossed, i've been in southern his writing tomatoes, one of the templates that was attacked on october, the 7th, a quarter of people that were taken hostage or killed. and then i drove across the

in kyra camden, west who is when we have, we have shown boston he's, i'm at least director of the n g o, the international communities organization. he's also a former piece and hostage negotiator. thank you very much indeed for being with us . gosh, and i want to come to you 1st. what's your take on this proposal to extend phase one. i think it's a nonstarter. i think it was a non starter. the moment it was presented by the it's really sorry to the americans to steve would cost the presidential invoice. and it was very clear from the opposite that from us would not agree when they entered into this and negotiated in deal a 4445 days ago was very clear that from us entered the agreement. because they understood in phase 2, it would lead to the end of the war, and is really withdrawal from casa. now, is real. this trying to renege on their obligation to end the world withdrawal from casa and from us, of course, is not going to release the 59 remaining hostages, until there isn't, is ready guarantee to end the war ring withdrawal from casa the heavier let me come to you because uh this a