to this as well as hosts of the misty winston show on t n t radio in nashville. we have steve gill, he is an attorney and political commentator, and in belgrave across to alexander cottage. he is a serbian member of parliament. welcome to you. all prospect rolls in effect. that means you can jump in any time you want. i always appreciate, alexander, let me go to you in belgrade, you know, i, i looked at the latest message is coming from jake sullivan and victoria newland. and if i'm not mistaken, they're getting into panic mode here. i'm calling this program magical thinking, but that's what everyone here is a displaying for all of us to see magical thinking that somehow ukraine is just around the corner. your thoughts, alexander, as well, was used to their magical thinking because they keep saying that costs are always a stage that without actual proof that it's a state, you know, they, they recognize the unilateral in 2008. and here we are. 16 years later, i still have nato troops there there's, they still have international supervisors there. they are holding

she's uh, the host with see g t n radio you can listen to are there also. she is a geo political commentator, an analyst, and it's a delight to talk to her because she's explaining things from a perspective that sometimes we here in the united states and in many parts of the world do not get for example. and i don't want to throw this at you right now. this is a report put out by pacific rim. pacific rim is essentially, i think that it's an american thing tech where they are essentially doing the following. they're trying to warn countries not to join the belgian router initiative or any of the initiatives that are being offered by china on economics. and here's what they say. they say that the chinese will have access and control over your communications. your intelligence, your media, your communication systems, and on top of that, they are very likely to spy on you. so that's, this is what they're, this is what they're saying. the country is so that they don't join the, the, this initiative on the part of china. how would you respond to that? are they ri