castro and cubans were not invited at that time. this some n some ways is an -- this in some ways is an extension of the process. it's a historic moment. >> you were there, and i understand that you saw on the streets some people not happy it what's happening, about this moment that we're seeing there. people on the streets who say that there should be me diplomatic relations between the united states and cuba. people upset that the communist government is here at the summit of americas, and then there are people who support it. what was that like to see the protesters? >> around the summits, you have a lot of other parties that come to be there. the business community, the civil society, academics, and for the first time since the cuban government was invited, you also had cuban civil society. but cuban civil society comes in terms of both pro-government and anti-government. and there were altercations. i didn't personally see them, but there were altercations in panama and that cubans were beating up on anti-cuban protesters. there's a long w