private company i see something that concerns me i call in the n.s.a. the n.s.a. works with me this is a more systematic pilot program and actually from our perspective that's a pilot program that's being done very well it's a pilot program that takes into account the privacy needs of users by sharing signatures from the n.s.a. so security of signatures of malware and other bad things entering into project networks sharing them out from the n.s.a. to those private sector networks but not sharing any information back to the n.s.a. from what gets caught from those. and therefore comparatively speaking that seems to be a fairly benign security pilot program ok now i want to ask you what you think of the fact that the obama administration right now is pushing congress trying to get them to to legislate to move up the maximum penalty right currently if you break into a government computer and they're off the excuse of they always use national security is at stake there is a ten year maximum prison sentence now they actually want to make it a twenty here maximum prison

to those private sector networks but not showing any information back to the n.s.a. from what gets caught from those who do. and therefore comparatively speaking that seems to be a fairly security program ok now i want to ask you what you think of the fact that the obama administration right now is pushing congress trying to get them to legislate to move up the maximum penalty right currently if you break into a government computer and. the excuse that they always use national security is at stake there is a ten year maximum prison sentence now they actually want to make it a twenty here. and they want to add mandatory minimum so that you have to get at least three years for breaking into a computer we think that that is a little dubious mostly because the statute that they're thinking of amending computer fraud and abuse act is actually a statute that's been used in some very broad and probably in a way that's actually always are as they always are it's been used to to prosecute people who violated terms of service on a website or people who have violated their cont

drake was a computer expert brought in 2001 to modernize n.s.a.because the agency was drowning in digital data. >> vast volumes of data streaming across all different kinds of networks. wired, wireless, phones, computers, you name it. >> pelley: and what does that look like to n.s.a. coming into their building in maryland? >> choking on it. >> pelley: n.s.a.'s solution was a computer project called "trailblazer." contractors were spending hundreds of millions of dollars on it, but based on its design, drake believed that trailblazer would never work. he warned his bosses, the pentagon inspector general, and congress, but nothing changed. >> there's one final step that could be taken but it was fraught with significant risk. >> pelley: drake was frustrated by the waste and worried that national security was at risk so he went to a reporter, siobhan gorman of the baltimore son, and became an anonymous source on mismanagement at the n.s.a. did you ever communicate classified information to siobhan gorman? >> did not. >> pelley: not once ever? >> not

we should just slow down for one second before we start labeling people terrorists now as of this n.s.a. pilot program i easily argue that this is definitely not the first time the government scanned your e-mails hello there the government and there have been several reports in the past where the government considered keeping tabs on what you do on the worldwide web now frankly i had that money that that's already happened so could this pilot program announcement just be a p.r. move to make it pretend lie. they have already invaded your privacy i'm just predicting that right now the d.o.d. is going to create a cyber terrorism watch list just like they do for the no fly list and the like it's only a matter of time. now does opposing america's endless wars abroad make you an isolationist is a description that we hear thrown out there a lot and even more often lately directed towards members of the g.o.p. ron paul's long call for us to stop bombing muslim countries and bankrupting ourselves and tarnishing america's name and focus on getting our own house in order but last week even mitt ro

a little security is that having fun with government websites a fair expense announcement from the n.s.a. makes many people question if their counter techniques can be crossing the line and is isolationism a dirty word for the g.o.p. presidential candidates are siding with atypical republican policies but does not make them outcasts within our own party and find out when we come back. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so. you think you understand it and then you do something else here see some other part of it and realize everything you say. i'm sorry because if it. were your really good and yet known. fuck fuck fuck fuck. let's not forget that we live in apartheid break your leg i think rockledge. whenever the governor says they're going to keep him safe get ready because freedom . politics the economy hollywood those are the typical topics you often hear on the news but recently there's been a new topic that pages can't help but pay attention to hackers and the cyber world . security have proven that their force to be reckoned with after they've successfully taken over se

>> well, he had access to a lot of very sensitive information at the n.s.a. senior manager there and he was believe by the government to have leaked information to a reporter at the "baltimore sun" about a dispute going on in the agency over two different types of essentially surveillance systems, one home grown in the agency and another much larger, more expensive one that contracters were looking to sell the agency. he thought they should stick with the cheaper dm-house version and others thought they should go in a different direction. the government claims he disclosed information about that dispute to the reporter. >> suarez: in the end he pleaded guilty to unauthorized access to a government computer system. you called it a humiliating turning of events for the government. why? >> the trial was supposed to open on monday. there had been a lot of pretrial action going back and forth for the last year. there were 10 felony counts going into this that could have led to drake spending literal dozens of years in prison, perhaps the rest of his natural life,

well coming up as the case against the one n.s.a. whistleblower crumbles the obama administration steps up its probe of the wiki leaks details after the break. its twenty four seven live streaming news towns what to do about the ongoing financial hurricane unlimited free high quality videos for download. and stories you never find on mainstream news. from the. political. person more on our team to watch to. fight. for. well forty years ago this week the new york times began publishing the pentagon papers by a courageous whistleblower who wants to expose the mishandling of a war for the greater good of this country and today daniel ellsberg is revered by many as a hero but those who follow in his footsteps the modern whistleblowers more likely than ever it seems to face prosecution now there's a case of thomas drake the n.s.a. official who exposed waste and corruption in his agency although in the wake of nine eleven in return he was labeled as an enemy of the state charged under the espionage act the first of thirty five years behind

than just that rising reported on the waterboarding of detainees in iraq he broke the story of the n.s.a.'s warrantless wiretapping program he also said in his affidavit he was subject to government surveillance and harassment during the bush administration but that he feels of the obama administration is just continuing the effort of intimidation so why won't pursue him so vigorously and as our guest today wrote in doing so has obama finally become dick cheney joining me to discuss this is conor friedersdorf sociate editor at the atlantic thanks so much for joining us. first starters what do you mean when you say that barack obama has finally become dick cheney. obviously hasn't worked into an old man with a problem what i mean particularly is that on this issue he is taking the bush cheney position that james rosen should be jailed if he doesn't reveal his source. and it's particularly galling because president obama relied on the reporting of james rosen in particular and in making a lot of very solid critiques of the bush administration so it's disappointing to see him take the posit

lot security has been having fun with government websites and their expense announcement from the n.s.a. makes many people question if there are techniques i think crossing the line and it's isolationism a dirty word for the g.o.p. presidential candidates are siding with a typical republican policies put those that make them outcasts within our own party and find out everything. you know sometimes you see a story at the scene so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else here's some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew . her as if it. were your early. and yet though. fuck fuck fuck. fuck. let's not forget that we started right. i think. he wanted. whenever the governor says they're very safe get ready for freedom. politics the economy hollywood those are the typical topics you often hear on the news recently and there's the new topic that they just can't help but pay attention to hackers and the cyber world. security have proven that they're a force to be reckoned with after they've successfully taken over several government websites inc

like grab the manning we've also touched on another leaker out there thomas drake a former senior n.s.a. officer was sharing information about his branch of intelligence and gauging in wasteful spending and he was sharing this information with a reporter from the baltimore sun now we should note the jury could continue to stand by the fact that all of the information they shared the sun paper was unclassified and he reiterated that in an interview with sixty minutes. did you ever communicate classified information to shawn gorman. about one server that was one of the fundamental rules where was oral communication was written electronic or later on even a hard copy it was all unclassified period. he's been charged with ten tell and he's relating to whistle blowing after he leaked information about wasteful spending fraud and abuse within the n.s.a. to the newspaper but we learned this week that instead of facing a possible thirty five years in jail if found convicted will agree to a plea deal he says if he's guilty verdict seeding authorize use of a computer and that's considered a misde

to whistle blowing after he leaked information about westphal spending fraud and abuse within the n.s.a. of the newspaper but we learned this week that instead of facing a possible thirty five years in jail a found convicted will agree to a plea deal he says it is guilty for exceeding authorize use of a computer and that's considered a misdemeanor and all those felony charges will be dropped when we covered this story in past years we spoke with government accountability projects just on radek about how the drake case is a clear example of obama's extremely heavy handed approach to stopping anybody out there who may be a whistleblower no matter how significant the information was. leaks about contractor fraud are ok weeks like we can leaks or anything about you know endangering troop movements or telling nuclear secrets that kind of thing is not ok yet drake it's precisely because the person in the earlier category who was pulling the whistle on billions of dollars you know just one brings up a good point drake was simply trying to point out that the government's nine eleven approach wa

stars a twenty year operative of the central intelligence agency the cia and the n.s.a. yes hijack this uprising initially against me and it is a complete some board net. oppositionist group now that is being funded and armed by the nato powers and the united states their objective is to carve up libya into several countries in the season twenty four point two billion barrels or moral reserves that's what the objective is it's the sixty imperial war that obama is waging in the region and it is a genocidal war in all its creatures the target is the population at large not merely the region. meantime in syria government forces are said to have reestablished control over the rebel hotbed town of. it comes amid continued calls by the british and french for a tough u.n. resolution against president assad and his government but russia and china who believe that any intervention in syria would only cause more bloodshed say they will stand against any such move arab world observer adrian believes that the un's most powerful members are the driving force behind the bodies enthusi

his stars the twenty year outward of the central intelligence agency the cia and the n.s.a.'s hijack this uprising initially against me and it is a complete subordinate. oppositionist group now that is being funded in our by the nato powers and the united states their objective is to carve up libya into several countries and season twenty four point two billion barrels of oil reserves that's what the objective business is sixty imperial war that obama is waging in the region and it is the genocidal war in all its features target is the population at large not merely because of the regime. in syria president forces have reportedly taken over the rebel held town of the war meanwhile the pressure is mounting in syria with britain and france pushing a draft u.n. resolution but russia and china who oppose any attempts to intervene and the syrian conflict have said they won't back the move however arab world observer at gnc believes the west is using the u.n. to benefit from the country's civil conflict. this. is merely an international organization who are working to promote the i

do you follow his stars a twenty year operative of the central intelligence agency the cia and the n.s.a.'s hijack this uprising initially. and it is a complete subordinate. oppositionist group now that is being funded and armed by the nato powers and the united states their objective is to carve out a living in just several countries and to season twenty four point two billion barrels of oil reserves and that's what the objective is it's the sixty imperial war that obama is waging in the region and it is a genocidal war in all its features the target is the population at large not merely because the regime. and i mean time in syria president assad's forces have reportedly taken over the rebel held town of good meanwhile pressure is mounting in syria with britain and france pushing for a draft u.n. resolution with russia and china who oppose any attempts to intervene in the syrian conflict have said that they will not back the move however world observer adrian itself which believes that the west is using the u.n. to benefit from the country's civil conflict. if united nations this. is i

present a report on japan's handing of the machine across this letter nuclear security forum and the n.s.a. review criticizes japan's or priorities for the slow response to exhaust queues in the underestimate risks of radiation leaks. but next starts he takes a closer look at the nuclear crisis in japan we talked to the number two you can official in the disaster hit country. we are here with he day he call in the sheehan man who is with the ministry of a colony here in japan specifically with the agency that deals with nuclear safety and thank you very much for taking some time to be with us today now as this. devastating event has happened in the news has spread out around the world it's become clear in the past three months that the information coming from the front nuclear plant has gotten worse can you tell us what's the situation on the ground right now the situation is improving. for example we're steadily in introducing a water to the reactor as. you need one two and three and their fear is stable and it could. already asian. exposure is becoming less and less a problem is the wate

agree in government we want i'm national governments and democrats ok so you could have a massive n.s.a. if i could ask you a question but i said let me ask you a question and it's something like what the united states here i mean the people the populations of the eurozone like the euro when things are good when you don't have to think about these type of things up until the crisis in. greece but now things are breaking down some of the contradictions of the euro becoming very obvious then the euro becomes very very unpopular i mean it's just when things are good you don't really care how it works but when things get tough you do and in this is really a good reason to question the entire structure of the eurozone isn't it. oh i totally agree with this it's a big problem i have been a critic of many of these problems for years i love course you're not always popular in brussels if you say those things but state policy was a marvelous success well no not long afterwards with facing these problems you can't brush it under the carpet you have to talk all these fundamental differences how do

well in my book james price that is something of a super if you're a journalist he helped reveal the n.s.a. spying program back during that bush administration where all of the americans electronic communications were being swept up and spied upon or for key words and escalated to of the rebels. most recently he revealed the bush administration was trying to intimidate a critic on court now he's he's known kind of a thorn in their side and even vice president dick cheney was rumored to have the current justice to try and go after and dig up dirt on him and but he published in two thousand and six really set in rocks basically here if you know that the u.s. central intelligence agency was using a russian scientists who thought all that information to the iranian nuclear weapons program but nuclear triggers now that new york times bestseller eat what he brought it back in two thousand and six with his book state of war and he didn't want that and so much so they began investigating who his sources were and according to rice or at least the affidavit he got out this week they got a scam rocke

see in the cases of the new york times reporter james rising has been spied on by the cia and former n.s.a. official thomas drake who blew the whistle on government waste and judith miller of the new york times shilling for bush's war in iraq investigative journalism in america it's pretty close to flat lining it's a shell of what it used to be so as the newtonian law of politics we have it something has to fill that void. it's like something has to fill the void of nature and that something is little security and anonymous and wiki leaks but this isn't a phenomenon a place exclusive to the united states it's occurring all over the world from tahrir square in egypt where democratic revolution was ignited thanks in part to government abuses exposed by wiki leaks to china where the ranks of the solders are swelling to syria where the people were in the streets again today brought out by activists using twitter and facebook and cell phones in much of the world the press is not doing its job either because it's been taken over by corporate interests or because been snuffed out by to tell it's

them well in my book james bryson is something of a super if you're a journalist he helped reveal the n.s.a. spying program back during the bush administration where all of the americans electronic communications were getting swept up inside of her and more of her keywords and escalated to other levels. most recently he revealed the bush administration was trying to intimidate a critic. now he's he's been kind of a thorn in their side and even by his president dick cheney was rumored to have pressured the justice to try to go after him they got turned on him and what he published in two thousand and six really set in was basically here if you don't. do us so it was held it seems he was using a russian scientists to spoil all that information to the iranian nuclear program but nuclear triggers our new york times best story but he brought it back in two thousand and six with his book state of war and didn't want that and so much so they began investigating his sources were and according to rice or at least the affidavit he probably sneaked biggest phone records and they have is he now. and is

legal question can the government violate a contract in its law enforcement and i think maybe the n.s.a. thinks they can and probably local cops think they can't and everybody else is somewhere in between oh maybe someone will design a facebook plug in for us to make sure that pops up first and then any school or medicine or straight are saying this will be put on notice but chris you you had some you know your story here about what's going on raises some some larger issues about school officials in government run schools using the force of government taxpayer dollars to spy on students but we've got out of here do you have any questions for him about that. going to spawn. oh you're obviously disturbed by this this is a violation of your privacy and raises some legal questions i mean are they are just for starters are they able to get away with this is this legal for a school administrator to do for school administrators to pose as students to get access to other profiles it probably isn't illegal i mean if you want to take a really broad reading of the computer but if you use that some

is supposed to be taking care of -- the defense department has a cybercommand, general alexander, n.s.a., and they've signed an agreement between -- between defense department and homeland security about sharing people so we get some of the expertise from the n.s.a. over in homeland security. and my concern is that we still don't have a real plan for our utilities, our critical infrastructure in this country and this is something that homeland security has to be involved in and as i said, they take care of all the rest of the government, besides -- i ask unanimous consent to have two additional minutes. the chair: the gentleman is recognized for two additional minutes. does the gentleman yield to the gentleman from washington? mr. price: i'm happy to yield. mr. dicks: so the cybersecurity vulnerability, i think our financial institutions make a major effort at trying to protect themselves but i have been told that when you think about intellectual property over the last few years, $1 trillion has been stolen through these cyberattacks. from the free world to others. and some of these pe

role very hard and a number of different ways partnering with general alexander and the hero rs at n.s.aand the sishe command to assist as is appropriate in that regard as well. >> thank you, general. mr. doctor, director, petraeus. we look forward to working with you. i believe we do protect -- i have really great anxiety about preakting dot-gov and dot.com and look forward to working with you. >> senator blunt, you're next. >> thanks, madam chairman. general, thank you for being here. i want to join my colleagues in thanking you and your family for yours service. you mentioned your west point colleague, general alexander. i know there are a couple here today. mcfarland from missouri and travis griffin from maine. i believe you and your leadership and your example are a great role model for those who serve us. i think the questions of my colleagues have been good and don't need to be repeated. there are a couple of things i would like to pursue a little bit. one, i just want to mention in my prepared remarks for the statement which i will submit, i made the comments that you made how it

you can make up all kinds of n.s.a. nasty political views of it. but nevertheless, that's what it is. what they are there for is a government that only exists to support big business and wealthy americans, kind of a perpetual tarp for their friends. well, i reject that notion, and the american people do, too. in my estimation there is no government program that more fully embodies or nation's tradition of community than medicaid. our sense of mutual obligation. some people are born wealthy, some people are born very poor, some people are born inbetween. some are born wealthy and become poor. some people are born poor and become wealthy. but while they are down, they have a safety net and it is called medicaid. you don't hear people talking about it very much, particularly frankly somewhat disappointingly from my side of the aisle. after almost 50 years, medicaid is still a lifesaving part of what we do as a government, what we're meant to do as a government. medicaid is simply too important to millions of people. nationally, there were 68 million p