and n.s.a. whistleblower and his attorney just on radek national security and human rights director for the government accountability project the nation's leading whistleblower organization on i think both of you for being here tonight now thomas i'm going to start with you because this is been going on for the last couple of years of your life and just a few months ago you face to face the possibility of possibly spending thirty five years behind bars and now you're not going to now it's over how does that feel extraordinary really. did this entire experience did it ruin your life or at least the last couple of years of your life i mean you were labeled a traitor you were demonized i can even imagine the emotional stress the financial stress that this is placed on you he said or you would want to be american or any human being to go through but would you do it again do you fundamentally believe in the information that you did pass on and the value of it yes but certainly with issues of public c

. >> n.s.a. for your call, robert, in tampa, florida. live picture from the dierkson senate office building. next we'll bring you a hearing from the senate foreign relations committee. they're looking at ambassadors to turkey and the czech republic. they were recessed appointments by the president and never confirmed by the senate. we'll get that to you. right now back to your phone calls. next to robert in marietta, georgia. robert's calling on the democrats' line. caller: yes. first time caller. it's really hard to get through. but nevertheless. i'm glad that they approved the debt ceiling agreement and it passed and has been signed. it's just very heartening to see what this president has to go through. there's never been a president, and i can go back -- i'm 69. i can go back and remember eisenhower. no president has been through what this man has been through. i think when you've been through seeing discrimination throughout this country, it's easy to spot. it's easy to spot. what this whole thing is about, it's about this man is a

that as i mentioned earlier the department of defense that department of homeland security that the n.s.a. that nasa always descend on these conferences because they're always looking for new recruits and i think about especially true now that say for example i know is planning on hiring fifteen hundred more people by the end of this fiscal year in september they've got fifteen hundred people more for next year can you tell who these people are when you're at the conference. well sometimes you can now if you can there's actually was on the spot that contests and you can win a t. shirt so you actually try to september you bring the fan on stage you explain why you believe that person is and if they produce credentials you get a teacher that says i spotted the fed and they get t. shirt that says i'm the fact and we had to change the rules a few years ago because all the feds were spotted you chop either because they don't want to t. shirts that you change up but there are people here who are what we call over people knew they were there you can see it's actually if it's paint they get up th

agency the n.s.a. but nasa they're all descending upon us they guess right now our death con is going on trying to recruit new hackers but do you think that there is a more of a mad rush then we might have ever seen before it's very possible although i don't know if you get what i mean there's this sense that you seem bostom if you are a computer science it is very still but if you're an individual who are actually in the academic arena or understood kind of where computer science and the internet is people world in this kind of power shift direction why would you waste your time working for the government why would you put yourself in the foam of an organization that will just kind of control your silence so the real challenge here is not going to government the real talent here is going abroad it will tell if you're a single human rights organizations or witness but we think it's so it is very interesting to see who they're trying to hire and i think the u.s. government is desperate to keep up with t

got sports keep working with this over us as isn't cities using government agencies if you put the n.s.a. through some things if you can i can see the process so there's a bode very well with u.s. government terms if we are hiring right now if you don't have experts people that's going to be talking since the edition to that the second. the password is actually very interesting well in the papers returned the u.s. government is saying that because i did not buy my password that itself may be in a legal options and again they don't actually cite me he saw any legislation oh evil and all it's so easy all you do is to retreat in the suspect as well why is it u.s. government now is when you write your password to your if you're in the sheen when you cross the border if i were c.e.o.'s were going to say should if i were journalists who are human rights activists i'd be very worried right now i imagine makes you wonder who the government is exactly hiring and do you think a paralegal desperate for hires right now i mean we know that d.d. agents the t.h.s. agents say that nasa they're all desce

human rights organizations you might go abroad but the economy isn't exactly in good shape and the n.s.a. for example this here this fiscal year which ends in september they're going to be hiring fifteen hundred new people next year they plan on hiring fifteen hundred new people to i don't know how well the government pay is but it seems like it might be tempting for some people well the incentives are definitely there if you are someone who program. if you are someone who has some security knowledge if you're looking for a job i can imagine that this must be a very tempting offer from the federal government. if you could just feel like you're helping us feel security etc etc. but i would say that the people you find that are really talented are the ones that really understand where the scene is going but ones that really grasp the political connotations of the nice and open information we've not on ourselves and i think these people the ones who wrote us about who to work with local government and those these people are i believe the very top of the hierarchy of the government going to

. >> d.o.d., n.s.a.-- an alphabet soup of federal agencies. >> if there are folks with wild red hairthat have skills and have an interest, and a wherewithall to be a federal agent, those are the folks we want to reach. >> reporter: cbs news got these first-ever pictures inside the top-secret national security agency's cyber-command, the hub for defending against computer attacks. deputy defense secretary david lynn told david martin cyberattackers are finding the u.s. with its barriers down. >> they technology for intrusions is far ahead of defenses and we need to catch up. >> reporter: unidentified cyberattackers penetrated pentagon firewalls this year, and stole plans for the war in afghanistan, designs for satellites, drones, and a top- secret, next-generation fighter plane. top computer security firm mcafee reported this week it found hackers rummaging through computers of 70 corporations and organizations, including the u.s. department of energy, the international olympic committee, the united nations. the loss of trade secrets to hackers costs u.s. companies as much as $20 bill

this is one of the new hopes of russian aviation it's called the n.s.a. twenty one and its towns it is an airline of the twenty first century there's a lot riding on the fate of this plane it represents the efforts of a russian aircraft industry that so far failed to break into international markets and it will happen because modern as it says it is to survive the competition. as a sort of mid range passenger jet it will be going up against the likes of boeing seven three seven an airbus has a three twenty both well established planes its makers are fully aware of the challenge ahead we understand it will last well not for us on this market. market for what we hope we will have for our home market. the city. they're confident the m s twenty one will be able to technically match its competitors with a third of it built like compazine cereals and totally us it will save on that crucial substance field. of onesies to present a bus and were. approximately fifteen percent of the course original course. but the energy twenty one also follows the earlier sukhoi

push to keep this agenda alive and so the n.s.a. castro lobby was born they give a lot of money you know u.s. elections are in fact privately financed so they've been able to figure out how to play the game so even though they're a small percentage of the population they play very big in a key swing state polls consistently show that two thirds of americans favor ending the embargo and normalizing relations with cuba and some in congress agree it's about time we talk to cuba and still stop fighting these wars about thirty or forty years old and say castro groups have given more than one point seven million dollars in donations to federal candidates from two thousand and four to two thousand and ten more than half a million dollars in two thousand and seven alone to both republicans and democrats ensuring us killer policy remains virtually unchanged impeding on the military approach but. that it will enhance the effectiveness of the embargo the united states will keep the embargo. fewer than one percent of americans are of cuban orig

but the n.s.a. twenty one also follows the earlier sukhoi superjet as one of the first russian airliners built in years the efforts are being led by the united air craft corporation which is trying to make russian plane companies work together like air persons done in europe we used to engineer or so ingenious or capacity from suporn company to consumer to pro to political but if you lose it's early days yet but with a wealth of aeronautical engineering experience from soviet times hopes are flying high that the m.s. twenty one will put a new generation of russian airliners up in the clouds tom boston party. and of course you can stay with us for more high octane updates from the leading edge max two thousand and eleven throughout the week. now global markets took a nosedive on wednesday undermining the efforts of economic leaders to calm anxiety over the deepening crisis angela merkel and nicolas sarkozy called for the creation of a single united erode zone government which would ensure its members

but the n.s.a. twenty one also follows the earlier sukhoi superjet as one of the first russian airliners built in years the efforts are being led by the united and craft corporation which is trying to make russian plane companies work together like air purses done in europe and we use their search engine is a capacitor from suporn company to consumer to go to pretty for what it will show it's early days yet and with a wealth of aeronautical engineering experience from soviet times hopes of flying high that the emmas twenty one will continue generation of russian airliners up in the clouds tom dawson. l r t is at the max two thousand and eleven throughout the week to bring you the best of moscow's jet powered airshow. hands. closer. approach. future flights. large tanks to the max airshow. meanwhile china is taking its military might to a new level a round of trials of its first stepper aircraft carrier although building the future carrier suite will take time beijing is already heralding a new chapt

but the n.s.a. twenty one also follows the earliest so-called super jet as one of the first russian airliners built in years the efforts are being led by the united and craft corporation which is trying to make russian plane companies work together like air persons done in europe reduce the engine euro so engineers are capacity from suporn company to consume two point two political illusion it's early days yet but with a wealth of aeronautical engineering experience from soviet times hopes of flying high that the m.s. twenty one will put a new generation of russian airliners up in the clouds tom boston party. a lot to the max two thousand and eleven throughout the week to bring you the best of moscow's jet powered air show. hands. closer. approach. future flight. marty tends to the max air show. well in a few minutes we'll update you on the worst oil spill a decade said that british waters will shell oil says it's controlled but green groups are not convinced with the crude gushing into the sea for

they have yet to match the strength of the n.s.a. castro lobby killing ford r. t. washington d.c. . talk to business news now with kareena. kapoor welcome to our business update here in r.t. and we've been reporting earlier that moscow's international airshow is underway robotic displays may be impressing the crowds but the real business is selling hard work this year the organizers expect more than ten billion dollars worth of contracts to be signed first out of the box so who are which was selling twelve of its projects to indonesian airlines for four hundred million russian helicopters and is announcing the sale of forty aircraft to terror for over three hundred meanwhile russian airline transair zero is buying eight airbus a three hundred twenty jets with the catalog price of over seven hundred million dollars christopher buckley vice president of air bars outlines his hopes for. we're very optimistic and enthusiastic about the russian market we still see growth continuing a little bit over five percent to five point three percent per year which is higher than the world average

against cuba even protesting in the streets but i think that they have yet to match the strength of the n.s.a. castro lobby killin ford r. t. washington d.c. . boston with us our time now for dimitri and the prisoners. know them welcome to the business update on our see and as our channel reports of moscow's international show is on the way the organizers expect more than ten billion dollars worth of contracts to be signed over the next few days first deals already there and russian airline plans are assigned up to buy eight jets with an option to vie for more we catalog price of over seven hundred million dollars christopher buckley vice president of outlines his hopes for the russian market. we're very optimistic and enthusiastic about the russian market we still see growth continuing a little bit over five percent to five point three percent per year which is higher than the world have fridge so for us that means that these are so many place many more aircraft in the coming year it's. let's see if we can we really liked it when . i mean fourteen fifty percent of that overall market. and ev

but the n.s.a. twenty one also follows the earlier sukhoi superjet as one of the first russian airliners built in years the efforts are being led by the united air craft corporation which is trying to make russian plane companies work together like air persons done in europe we use the engineers engineers capacity from suporn company to consumer to go to political illusion it's early days yet but with a wealth of aeronautical engineering experience from soviet times hopes of flying honey the m s twenty one will put a new generation of russian airliners up in the clouds tom boston marty. well r t will continue to bring you the best of mach's twenty eleven throughout the week so stay tuned for more highlights from moscow is jet powered airshow. future flight. our team takes to the max air show global markets have taken a nosedive after the leaders of the strongest economies fail to calm fears of a deepening crisis angela merkel and nicolas sarkozy called for the creation of a central economic body whi

measures that we've implemented there is a new bank levy we are sharing are paying the top two percent of n.s.a. or the us haven't done that but fifty percent overall goal of all people in the us don't pay for drilling comes out so that's another another misnomer also what do you consider poverty i consider poverty someone who can afford to feed their kids however if we look at why the american standards of poverty there is an x. box in the house there is too cause there is mobile phones there's the i've heard ok that is no politician i want to get to what you said about about america i want to get to the united states because you said what does it matter you know that there's a lot of wealth there's a lot of wealth in the united states and i want to play you what joseph stiglitz and also both economists said about both the income disparity in this country and also the belief in the american dream that maybe makes people not so aware of that and play those those sound bites place america was a country that sort of stood stayed together historically with great unity on the glue that we all figur

monitor their control i mean this is no surprise i mean right when we talk about we don't talk about n.s.a. offices and prize and wireless i don't know about that i don't know your sources on that but we do talk every day about the expansion of the patriot act where you know you don't have accountability for warrantless wiretapping that sort of thing so you think the same be used used here in the u.s. if that's what's going on i mean they really are i mean there was one guy who put up a flash mob at the federal reserve and he came there he was the only person who came the people there was n.y.p.d. officers there was about a hundred of them surrounding the building and they were all talking about hundreds and thousands of people they were supposed to come and storm the federal reserve meanwhile i was just one guy who posted the barn so and white people were already monitoring and watching what was going to happen so there are already you know they're going to cooperate they're already sparring and if they were you know what people are going to do before they do it here well then my next que

or an n.s.a. with an n.g.a. and who forth, that whole alphabet soup but we have been doing that well for many, many years. the collaboration moving toward that center. again, i think the past decade we've shown a jointness at collaborating a whole lot better. that is, simply two parts coming together and saying what's the task at hand? what's the challenge we're facing? let's work together toward it. i'll put in my pieces, you put in your pieces. i'm talking about a different model at integration. not on every single subject, not on every effort. but where it makes sense. you bring the human capabilities integrated against that same target set in terms of what the defense, hument effort is with the national clan destine service as one example. of course, cyber is concerned you integrate the focus on that problem set rather than having it separate and still collaborating. so i think i have given you a bit of a sense of where i think we're going while still giving you an idea of where i think we've come from over

employees there say her stage n.s.a. name was gracy. never a problem never violent.nd her bro two brothers ryan and dillon sure did love their guns showing them four of them which they would off go off and go shooting. he confirmed to us one of them absolutely is an ak 4'. shep? >> phil, speaking of lawlessness, the gougest brother of the three here. 21 years oold, old and 14 felony convictions already. >> yeah. quite impressive for the 21-year-old ryan daugherty. most recent felony conviction arguably his most really truly disturbing. we'll get more to that in a second. it's him that authorities believe led to the whole dash cam captured high speed chase. because he was supposed to have been registered as a sex offender at that moment but had not done so so it's very likely he had the three been pulled over he would have been going straight to jail. the reason for that the day before the judge sentenced him 10 years probation for sending harmful messages, emails or texts to a minor. turns out that was an 11-year-old girl. i have got the charging affidavit. the thing

or an n.s.a. with an n.g.a. and so forth, that whole alphabet soup, but by and large we have doing that for many, many years. the collaboration -- moving toward that center. again, i think the past decade we've shown a jointness at collaborating a whole lot better. that is simply two parts coming together and saying what's the task at hand, what's the challenge we're facing, let's work together toward it. i'll put in my pieces. you put in your pieces. i'm talking about a different model at integration. not on every single subject. not on every single effort. but where it makes sense. you bring the human capabilities integrated against that same target set in terms of what the defense, human effort is with the national clan des ion service as one -- clandestine service as one example. cybersecurity, you not have it separate and still collaborating. so i think i've given you a bit of a sense of where i think we're going while giving you an idea of where i think we've come from over the past decade, in particular,

caller: definitely i would take some of the n.s.a. and c.i.a. money and put out a contract on rush limbaugh and rupert murdock. host: whether or not would you want to do that? cuveragetsdz because they're ruining this country. host: they're just expressing their first amendment rights. caller: they're trying to create hatred in the united states and class against class and it seems everything possible that they could possibly do to hurt this president. they said, mitch mcconnell said from day one that was their number one priority was to get barack obama into a one-term president. the guys watched farrari compared to george bush compared to a vega. host: we're going to leave it there. james q. wilson is the pepper dine university professor and author of american politics then and now. he says with my staff i would decide what my administration was for. once i clarified that i would write several speeches on how to cope with a stagnant economy, how to deal with countries such as iran and syria that harass our own populations -- that harass their

general keith alexander, who heads up n.s.a., provided a letter of support for matt's nomination and i have also spoke len personally with general alexander about matt. i have a great deal of respect, a great deal of respect for the yen and it speaks volumes to me that he has such high, unequivocal praise for matt both has a leader, as well as a person. matt's other job, not an enviable one, which brought him in close contact with the committee, was his service as executive director of the guantanamo review task force. i've had numerous conversations with matt about some of the he recommendations made by the task force on transferring what i believe continue to be potentially dangerous detainees. i appreciate that the task force was following a deadline set by executive order to close guantanamo bay, but i believe that we have accepted too great a risk to our national security by transferring many of these detainees to other host countries. the recidivism rate continues to climb. it's today somewhere in the range of 26%. and we have no reason to expect that it will stop climbing any