are japan and he says more evidence is needed to conclude whether the allegations against the n.s.a. group are actually true. i don't have any specific information about the n.s.o. group whether or not they've been involved in this directly or not but this company is a company that sells spyware to governments and in latin america in the middle east and then in other places so while i think it's possible i still think we're going to need to see a little bit more of the evidence that's behind these allegations in this lawsuit i would also point out that this lawsuit was filed in san francisco and what kind of jurisdiction they may or may not have over an israeli company over something that happened in the 3rd country is also somewhat dubious i would say every time you look at what's happened you sent a message you see a message on your screen thing that yes don't worry this is and encrypted but now the companies coming out and saying well but actually we were hacked and we're suing somebody so the key message here to consumers to businesses and to governments that these apps that you're usi

routinely violated and send sent by news in fact indirectly linked to the same parent company as the n.s.a. group which is a well known for expenses buying software and in fact similar programs have been used by several middle eastern companies. and sandrine and other companies have really. had to be profit off of selling their services to these regimes in fact i would like to add publicly committed in 2012 to not work with the government of pakistan we found evidence suggesting it was offering the same services some services in pakistan dating back to at least 2016 o'malley thank you. north and south korea always seem to have some spat going on between them all this time of the about a project that was supposed to improve relations between the 2 countries north korea's late leader kim jong un is unhappy about a mountain resort in the north close to the border mount. this week he ordered south korea to tear down a bunch of buildings there. or diamond mountain in north korea a tourist resort co-developed by seoul. but the grand reconciliation project appears to be over shabby a hodgepodge with no

what's that been very tough and it's commendable really that they have not just stood up against n.s.a. group in this particular example but over the last few years they've continued to defend and 20 crippen in their platform and i think it is a good example of why we need spaces like whatsapp that are enter an encrypted so that we can have private spaces online because the slippery slope that we're currently in is to well when it's just absolutely no trust in security in the online world and that is as i've said before just crippling from the perspective of civil society free speech privacy and the ability of 7 and groups human rights groups jenison others to to operate you know we cannot do human rights work in a surveillance state or thank you so much for coming and talking about your perspective tony o'carroll there thank you india is formally splitting the disputed region of kashmir into 2 new centrally controlled territories on thursday in august new delhi revoke the region's autonomy since them people from other parts of india working in the area have been targeted and job or is in the

filed in san francisco is the 1st legal action of its kind according to facebook facebook says the n.s.a. group hacked into the phones of roughly 1400 users targeting human rights activists political dissidents and journalists omar abdel aziz is a friend of saudi journalist jamal khashoggi who was killed inside the saudi arabia consulate in istanbul in 2018 last december he filed a lawsuit against an s.o.s. saying that the hacking of my phone played a major role in what happened to jamal. group has not directed tonight hacking whatsapp but said it disputes the allegations and vowed to vigorously fight them it's going to be on this for marco instead his chief analyst for digital services of japan he joins us now via skype from tokyo good to have you with us what do you make of those denials from the n.s.o. group that it stung nothing wrong here well i don't have any specific information about you know so whether or not they've been involved in this directly or not but this company is a company that sells spyware to governments and in latin america in the middle east and in other places so while

n.s.a. sang the hacking of my phone played a major role in what happened to jamal and the group has not directly denied hacking what's up but said it is disputed the allegations and valve to vigorously fight them. carol is the director of amnesty tech family c international she joins us by skype from london good to have you with us so as i've explained this sort of action for what we know is targeted human rights workers journalists and so on give us an idea about why the why the public even should be concerned about who can be targeted. well this is actually just i mean this explosive revelations yesterday from once that there is now confirmation of 100 human rights defenders has been targeted across 20 countries by this into mr valence company n.s.o. group is really confirming what human rights groups including amnesty international as well as others such as the citizen lambert united toronto and many more have been saying for a long time which is that the surveillance industry as it currently stands is completely unregulated and the way that this powerful cyber weapons essentially are being s

whistleblowers coming forward it reminded me very much of thomas' case where a group of loyal and long term multi-decadal servants in the n.s.a. and out came forward with a very specific complaint and the the the channels that they followed where the legal channels did not serve them well and i'm wondering how he thinks does he feel or this is a replay of history when he watches the u.k. in great whistleblowers well no i've had many flashbacks as a result of this and you know i suffer from partisanship in the politics. it was a blowers or like back in the news again right and this is a good whistleblower i'm sorry i think simply because there's the extraordinary conduct and behavior of the president office who is now clearly obstructing justice and is just projecting left and right each and every day and through you know the social media and twitter accounts in particular yes i mean i certainly can identify what the risks are especially when you're taking on the president in states like i did i mean you don't do that without some kind of retribution you don't do that. knowing that there is some right kind of reprisal i mean t

working group is biased and has ignored its ruling so who's right spain or the u.n. . well this is a political battle as the n.s.a. it is also a legal battle and there by the list are different fronts here now frank. who has the upper hand comes the machine and very much also on all. the international. the same day of the sentence yesterday spanish government members of the cabinet distributing a video highlighting. this i mean. system which is obviously our national. strength an image that is being challenged by some degree by their pro movement and that's part of the political i think that's going on. we have peace and we don't focus on their own political bottom and they're also seeing right or wrong what we try to. analyze what are the possibilities of finding a way out of this right now in the political but i mentioned essentially what's happening is a battle diligent in mind be other sacked so yesterday president. said that they had. ready to trade and had been defeated at the same time. in the protests against this sentence you would see many people trying to suggest that story span explain in spanish and

whistleblowers coming forward it reminded me very much of thomas' case where a group of loyal and long term multi-decadal servants in the n.s.a. and out came forward with a very specific complaint and the the the channels that they followed where the legal channels did not serve them well and i'm wondering how he thinks does he feel or this is a replay of history when he watches the u.k. in great whistleblowers well no i've had many flashbacks as a result of this and you know i suffer from partisanship in the politics 'd. it was the blowers are like back in the news again and this is a good whistleblower i'm sorry i think simply because there's the extraordinary conduct and behavior of the president office who is now clearly obstructing justice and is just projecting left and right each and every day and through you know the social media and twitter accounts in particular yes i mean i certainly can identify what the risks are especially when you're taking on the president in states like i did i mean you don't do that without some kind of retribution you don't do that. knowing that there is some right kind of reprisal i mean t

whistleblowers coming forward it reminded me very much of thomas' case where a group of loyal and long term multi-decadal servants in the n.s.a and out came forward with a very specific complaint and the the the channels that they followed where the legal channels did not serve them well and i'm wondering how he thinks does he feel or this is a replay of history when he watches the u.k. in great whistleblowers well no i've had many flashbacks as a result of this and you know i suffer from partisanship in the politics 'd. it was a blowers or like back in the news again right and this is a good whistleblower i'm sorry i think simply because there's the extraordinary conduct and behavior of the president office who is now clearly obstructing justice and is just projecting left and right each and every day and through you know the social media and twitter accounts in particular yes i mean i certainly can identify what the risks are especially when you're taking on the president in states like i did i mean you don't do that without some kind of retribution you don't do that. knowing that somebody kind of reprisal i mean there are

working group is biased and has ignored its ruling so who's right spain or the u.n. . well this is a political battle as the n.s.a. it is also legal and thereby the list of different fronts here now frank. who has the upper hand comes the machine and very much also on all. the international. the same day of the sentence yesterday spanish government members of the cabinet distributing a bit you're highlighting. i mean the system which is obviously our permanent national. strength an image that is being challenged to some degree by their parents movement and that's part of the political i think that's going on. we have peace and we don't focus on their own political but they're also seeing right or wrong what we try to. analyze what are the possibilities of finding a way out of this right now in the us but i mentioned essentially what's happening is a battle diligent in mind the other side so yesterday president santos said that at the end this movement 'd had trade and had been defeated at the same time. in the protests against this sentence you would see many people trying to suggest that story span explain in sp