. >> let me go to my friend, thank you for coming from the naa kcp.oncerned about this group, american legislative exchange council which pushes these laws. tell me what you know about them and why you're concerned. >> this is a group, frankly, when we took a look at them, we hoped maybe it was like the chamber of commerce, started off mom and apple pie and moved steadily to the further and further, you know, to the right. but actually, what we found is that, no, they were founded really for ill-intent. this is a group whose founder has said, you know, our best interest is when the voting populous is constrained, when the number of people who can vote in this country goes down. in case after case, they're just on the wrong side. they're super extreme. this wild wild west law that they passed, you know, i mean, frankly, chris, if someone made a 911 call from the frontier in 1880, that's what it would sound like, right? >> yes. >> it raises the question, why are so many corporations supporting a group that is trying to shrink the number of people who ca