is 2018 nabj? when i was journalists of the year, by the way, an award rolling one before and was he's one of the ogs of nabj. and so i remember us being on stage in detroit as well. really. you always onstage. that was the common denominator. hey, hey, look, anybody got swagger? some folk got to be onstage. some people got to be down there a roland is on the stage. i nabj, you know, the party is really jumping. and so we had it. we had a blast. but i know i've told people this before is that i know people have seen me in a very serious light. they are looking at, you know, oh, the donald trump thing and all that other kind of stuff. but i'm like, i may not like that fine line up. i like to start up like i do a lot of the same things that a lot of other people do. but it's an important part of a release for professional where we're constantly bombarded with sometimes the most terrifying information we have to put in the context for people. so us. so we're all just on your podcast and you asked me t