neil: you know, it looked like ronald regan would not be a win nable candidate against jimmy carter asrmer president and his wife, also a number of other stops there but i was thinking, senator if you think about it that he wasn't given much of a chance, that is ronald regan, but then things seemed to implode under jimmy carter between what was going on in iran and the hostage situation and the classic economy, and the oil embargo and the runup in oil & gas prices so that changes everything, ig right? >> oh, it can. i mean events can change things. reagan is different, president reagan was different than president trump. after all, he had been governor of california, and pretty effectively. no question, neil, the democrats and others said oh, my god, an actor, president of the united states, but he was a lot more than that's and he was very likable and unifying and incidentally, one of the reasons he beat jimmy carter in 1980, ronald regan was that he was the preference of a lot of democrats who became known as reagan democrats, and the comparison is shown so capable of reaching into t