conversation, we talk about vladimir nabokov, about his biography, about his books, and my interlocutors, today the head of the nabokov center of the institute russian literatureciences, pushkin house, tatyana olegovna ponomareva, and literary critic, journalist, researcher of nabokov’s work igor kirienkov. igor, i’ve already put on my glasses, this means that... mandar begins, well, in the broad sense of the word, it begins with how fyodor konstantinovich godunov cherdyntsev reads his collection of poems, rereads it, understands its significance, directly quotes himself, or rather, well, how if in a novel we see these poems written by him, here he rises to the pinnacle of pride, thinks, i thank you, fatherland, that’s it, his career has taken place, he is recognized by you, he thinks, but then a miracle happens, because we see... how a poem is written before our eyes, imagine that we would have a text where pushkin would describe how he writes, i remember, a wonderful moment, or i erected a monument to myself that was not man-made, nabokov has it all, let’s listen to vladimir vladimirovich, i’m still far from thirty, today i’m recognized, recognized, i thank