>> it's important to take notice of the nact in 2016 there was a divide between group and now we haveifferent factions with very different agenda, very different attitudes on the variety of forms of violence. the group that is the one affiliated to these seven states, which is critical of his extreme form of violence. this notion that you ex communicate people. that everyone who is not with you basically is against you and is a legitimate target, even if a civilian or a child. the other group, they have a very different approach. for instance, the -- they ban the use of suicide bombings against mosques or markets. they do not use child soldiers so they have rethought and changed and evolved from shakow's model, realizing that it came with limitations. it's not that they're nice but now they're different. >> now you've mentioned it, let's talk about the islamic state, west africa province. who is the greater threats at the moment there? is it the islamic state or boko haram? >> i think it's no do you want that islam is the larger threat now. since tweevepblet, the largest attacks on mi