what nad co what nad cool again? i'm seeing great murals around the city, great businesses. what made the change? >> i think the change -- i was trying to explain this to someone the other day as vcu kind of drove some of that. remember vcu went to the final four, that kind of help -- where's this school from, it's the stiff richmond, that put richmond on the map. i thought also this was one of the ha centers of 2008 election as well. that put us on the map when president obama won virginia for the first time until 44 years. >> a democrat had won the state. >> that's right. yeah. >> do you think that's changed as far as government too? so virginia also went blue in the most recent election. >> that's right. and richmond's at the heart of all that because we -- we play a -- we play a significant role in the electoral future of the common wealth of virginia. not only do you have votes in northern va, but you also have a thriving, growing region as well. we're still growing and i think vcu is a driver of that and i think that just young people in general moving to the city. >>