or the next nadal hassan does so. expect of the government leaders. >> neil: so when you hear privacy advocates say that's a dangerous stop to cross, you're going after a lot of good guys and you say what? >> privacy matter as great deal. the first amendment, they protect americans. they don't protect foreign terrorists overseas. foreign terrorists, we can use every tool we have to intercept communications. you know, neil, the thing that is maddening is with terror attack after terror attack, whether it's nadal hassan at fort hood, the boston marathon bombers, the orlando nightclub terrorists, the government has had the communications. they have intercepted the communications and knew about the threat before it occurred. the administration was unwilling to act because of fears of correctness. i chaired in the senate where the department of homeland security had undergone a purge and altered around delete references to the islam brotherhood or islamic terrorists. we've got to be clear-eyed about the threat we face abro

nadal hassan was born in virginia across the bridge from washington d.c. he's an amy say cpsychiatrist. it doesn't get more embedded than that when he killed 13 people at fort hood, texas and grew up in memphis tennessee, african american guy converted to islam, killed an american soldier in little rock, arkansas. his family carlos bledsoe in the u.s. military since the civil war. very american kid. so that's the problem. and luckily, it's not a big problem because people radicalizing here tend not to get training overseas and not part of a large group and lone actors and lone wolves but can create -- omar mateen killed 42 people at a nightclub in orlando but he was born in queens, new york, which is where donald trump was born. donald trump's mother was a scottish immigrant. omar mateen was the son of afghan immigrants. how do you deal with that? >> that is the question, why can't this issue of home grown terrorism get the kind of tracti traction? why can't we get that in public 't discourse? >> we're beginning to get it. we had the attack not far in san