it comes from nadeem. >> we all know it's going to be spending cuts after the general election. what can you tell us? >> nick clegg? >> we have set out to have a look at it. we've sent out numbers right there, specifying the savings that we do think should be made. we've set out in much greater detail than any other party, 15 billion pounds worth of savings, which are kind of up from down payments to deal with this huge black hole we have in our public fund. what are we talking about? things like scrapping, the new generation of passports, public sector pay restraint, the top 20% of recipients of tax credits shouldn't receive those credits so they can be targeted elsewhere. i'm saying no to things like the multibillion pound euro fighter typhoon. a defense project. those are the kind of big decisions you need to take. what you can't do, this is where i really disagree with them, is trying to fool you into thinking that just official savings is enough. you can't fill a black hole by just a few savings on pot plants and paper clips. >> gordon brown? >> we've set out a four-year de