you mentioned chuck schumer and nadler taking on these responsibilities. obviously you said this was well telegraphed. the president had not hid his distaste for jeff sessions. how much is this escalating with the new congress? >> we knew the president would make changes to his cabinet. the swiftness of sessions departure took people here at the white house by surprise. the fact that the president after about two hours sleep woke up and sent out a few tweets and told john kelly to ask for his resignation. there's other names floating around, ryan zinke, the department of the interior, the inspector general has referred a matter regarding zinke in a land deal in montana to the department of justice. wilbur ross has been talked about, the defense secretary teary has been talked about, james mattis. there's more to come. we'll keen an eye on it. >> neil: we're watching separately outside the justice department. we heard as well and you touched on it that rod rosenstein has this visit to the white house, whether that was preplanned or not. i didn't hear your e

we saw a letter this tuesday come out from jerry nadler who will be one of the big investigative forces for democrats. he wrote a letter to the acting attorney general, among others, saying we will investigate how you have handled detaining immigrants and also separating families. so it's not just about trump's record. we will see the tax returns. we will see also things lik his policies and i think many of his cabinet decisions includinghe firing of attorney general jeff sessions, will come up quickly. i would expect hearings on that fast. robert: who are the players? who should we pay attention to on the democratic side, the chairs?ke eliza cummings of maryland, someone who has been in partisan warfare before on th committee against darrell lica.y je nadler in the judiciary are the two big nam think we should take a deeper look which is regular - hearin appropriations hearings and humdrum business of these committees will turn into parties -- partisan par fare. if a cabinet secretary comes capitol hill for a hearing on budget matters, tsky'll be about policy. this will be a daily thin

let's play what jerry nadler said today. >> we can subpoena the final report. we can subpoena mueller and ask him in front of the committee what was in your final report. those are things we could do. but the fact is, any such interference would be part of a pattern of obstruction of justice. >> this is all about whitaker and him wanting jerry nadler for recusal. he's not the only democrat you're alluding to. >> yeah, of course. if whitaker does not recuse himself, they're letting the stage dry for him to be called before the committees. >> let's also not sleep on what he's saying in terms of the release of the mueller report. imagine your worst case scenario from a democratic point of view or some other points of view. >> you might have one here. >> i'm sure julie will tell me immediately. if whitaker comes in and in words the chris christie from this morning and brings this in for a landing from a trump favorable point of view, if they somehow suppress the report, it can't stay suppressed, because the house is run by the democratic party. they will then invit

joining me jerry nadler, the top democrat on the house democratic committee.an, glad to have you here. >> good to be here. >> you got a response to your letter to lee loftus? >> no we have not gotten a letter yet and we don't know when we'll get one. it is clear i think that the very reason he was appointed was to be a hatchet person on the investigation. he ought to recuse himself because he has prejudged the issue. he said there was no russian involvement. >> he has been very specific. he said there is no collusion, he doesn't think this is a legitimate line of inquiry and had suggested on television in that cnn interview that you could starve the mueller investigation hi, suggested a number of ways that you could do that, but he has prejudged the issue, which means he shouldn't be there. we know why he was appointed. the only reason, and the president was very clear about this, the only beef he had with attorney general sessions is that he did not recuse himself. he did not acts the president's personal defense attorney. obviously, when he appointed somebod

jerry nadler gave an interview to the entire car of the nacelle at heading to d.c.tell you, laura, i've done this before talking a little bit too loud, so i know what jerry nadler is going through. this impeachment thing that nadler allegedly said, this will be a goal number one, think about this. you have upwards to 12-15 democrats who just won on the kind of hopy-changey stuff. how do you think that's going to go over when they have to go on the record on impeachment, for instance, steve russell's seat in oklahoma city that they just won that's like r+6. >> the polls are showing that people do not want the impeachment style. >> do you know who really get that? nancy pelosi gets that. you saw the answer that they are going be very careful and take it step-by-step. she knows if they overplayed their hand, they'll lose all these deeds. >> russia was not a midterm on the issue in the midterms. we saw the exit polls say that 54 of >> laura: immigration number two issue in the state of florida. only behind health care by three points. interesting. guys, fantastic. great

nadler and leader pelosi and try to work within the framework of what they highlight. in 2016 when i was elected, big democratic year, we had what we called six for '06 and we had six priorities and they included better pay for women, quality pay, it included minimum wage, there were economic bread-and-butter issues we passed. i think leader pelosi we have the similar six for '06 for this class of '18. we need to do investigations and oversight and this president's conduct is such he will lead us to see he has probably done more horm and more questionable probably illegal or impeachable offenses and since impeachment is part of the constitution, it will have to be considered and if the facts that are produced by the mueller report or his continued conduct warrant it we have to look at impeachment because it's on the table in the constitution but it won't be day one. the first thing we'll do is protect people with pre-existing conditions, try to work on passing jobs bills and clean up the swamp that he has really created. he's a swamp builder. he's the okeechobee swamp.

jerrold nadler and elijah cummings. congressman cummings, let me begin with you. you heard the president there. he said if democrats investigate, it would be a war like posture. are you ready to go to war? >> i'm not going to war with anyone. i'm going to do what the american people said they wanted us to do through this election, even in trump country they're saying we want transparency. we want honesty and integrity. they want something else. they want accountability with regard to this president. that is exactly what i'm going to do. if i'm blessed to have that opportunity and this is what the constitution requires. we'll do our part. george, i'm not going to be handing out subpoenas like somebody's handing out candy on halloween. as a lawyer and officer of the court, i take subpoenas seriously. i plan to -- if i have to use them, they'll be used in a methodical way and it must be in the public interest. we have a lot to do. i'm laser focused on those issues that even president trump says he wants to work on, such as prescription drug prices, the high price of

to step forward as chairman. >> i think i have a statement from chairman nadler or tweet.cans must have answers immediately as to the reasoning behind donald trump's removing jeff sessions from the justice department. why is the president making this change and who has authority over special counsel robert mueller's investigation? we'll be holding people accountable. matt miller, this was precisely, whether or not it was a message that democrats ran on, this was always going to be the most immediately and perhaps urgent function that democrats would have to assume when they took control of these committees. >> yeah, that's right. and the problem is they don't take control of these committees until january. if i have a concern here, it's that by january, it might be too late. once they have control of these committees they can subpoena witnesses, make matt whitaker come up and testify, ask for documents. by then, he may have already moved to shut this investigation down or, you know, to decline, you know, new investigative steps for mueller. maybe put a subpoena in a drawer

lou: and if this point, jeral nadler, with 115 congress.n his plan to investigate president's impact on integrity of justice department and fbi, you can't make this up. what do you make of what kind of. they seem like a clown act already. >> it is. it is laughable for mr. nadler to make those accusations, president's tweets reflect general public outrage over double standards, people are just fed up with all corruption in doj and fbi, that is what president is saying. so we need all of this exposed so people can be held account able and public can know the truth. lou: nadler and adam schiff. at forefront of those calling for president's impeachment. and nancy pelosi is talking the same stuff now. she seems lea like she wants no there ththrottle it back. how big of a mess -- with? >> it will be a nuisance. but it is going nowhere, they will not have votes to impeach the president, the economy is best it has been. lou: i am thinking what option does he have to fight back? and make them regret even talking nonsense? >> oh, he has -- executive

is nancy pelosi, maxine waters, adam shift, harold nadler, are they capable of doing what clinton didasily helped him get reelected circle years later? >> i don't know, i thought earlier today that senate majority leader mitch mcconnell had a great interview, and he said to them something which i can reflect on, because i was there, and that is that the politics of investigation may make your partisans happy, but may turn off a lot of people. i think the president clearly is going to reach out on things like infrastructure, he is going to reach out on some practical, common sense steps on health care, including lowering the cost of drugs, i think he is going to try to find issues to make it very hard for the democrats to say no. and then we will see whether or not they are so rapid, certainly the left wing of the democratic party is much more rapid than anything that eitherl with any '90s. we will see how it develops. >> sean: what are your reaction to jeff sessions' announcement today? i couldn't believe when he recused himself. if he had any thought that he would do this, i thought

jackie, i interviewed jerry nadler on friday night. he said something else about this that grabbed my attention about the investigation. he said essentially that democrats, they might want to demand that legislation to protect bob mueller be part of negotiations over government funding coming up. listen to him. >> we could insist that that be a condition of passage of the remaining legislation to fund the government, which has to be done by december 7th. >> you are going to hold it hostage? >> i wouldn't call it holding hostage, but i think the future constitutional government is at stake here. and we must go a long way to make sure that the president is a president, not a king. >> is this going to become a thing, jackie? >> you know, i think senator chuck schumer would stop short of saying they would shut down the government over the mueller probe. but it certainly could be. there are going to be factions in this democratic caucus, particularly the new ones that are coming in, who really do want to take it to the president, both on th

m the house oversight committee, jerrold nadler, manhattan. intelligence committee, adam schiff, l.a. elijaht. cummings, heading the oversight committee, as well, he will be from where? baltimore. and, of course, you have nancy pelosi, san francisco, it's over here and over here. what about the middle of theer country and the rest of the country? they are not going to be represented because the democrat party is controlled by these hard-core leftists. i am sick and tired of these media types trying to hijack these press conferences! these press conferences are for the american people! cnn, you don't even have an audience! it is not for you, it is not for msnbc, and it is not for every harebrained, malcontent, liberal dressed up as alc journalist! we have standards in this country for doctors, for lawyers, for truck drivers, electricians, what are the standardss, for journalists? jake tapper was a spokesman for a democratic congresswoman, then heom was a spokesman for handgun controlling and now he is a journalist. there is a guy that used to w

democratic congressman jerry nadler of new york. mr. chairman, in all likelihood, thank you very much for joining us. under the republicans, you've been saying, there's been no congressional oversight of the trump administration. now that you're expected to be the chairman of the judicial house committee, what are the first three things you want to hold hearings on? >> very first thing, obviously, is to protect the mueller investigation. the president's dismissal of attorney general sessions and his appointment of whitaker, a complete political lackey, is a real threat to that investigation. that investigation is of utmost importance in making sure we adhere to the rule of law and that the administration is held accountable. we will certainly hold hearings on that. as of january 3rd, we will subpoena or summon, if necessary subpoena mr. whitalk dlwhitake >> what will you ask of mr. whitaker? >> it will be about his expressed hostility of the investigation, how he can possibly supervise it when he has expressed, come out and said that th

couple months ago, before we won. >> david: will the real jerry nadler please stand up?> jessica: i think he is now. he was talking last weekend that matthew whitaker will be the first witness, acting ag. there are things we can work together on. when you listen to people like donna should layla and those are district that weren't necessarily going for democrats. they know that the mandate is to get something done. >> harris: can i ask you question about matthew whitaker, though? he hasn't been assigned anything with regard to the rush investigation. we don't know what will happen with him. he literally could sit in that seat for another week and we could see somebody else. that's where you guys want to put it? >> jessica: i think that if he is still sitting there -- jerry nadler said he was going to call in january 3rd or whatever the first day of session is. >> melissa: do you think maybe that's a trap? if you look at that, if that's the first thing democrats are going to do... >> harris: that's my point. >> melissa: maybe it's a trap to trap the democrats. >> harris:

nadler should know better than to threaten this sort of thing.same thing that will happen if they threaten impeachment. it makes me disconcerted. liz: i want your thoughts on max eenl waters saying she wants to target wall street as the incoming chair of financial services. >> what i'm going to do to you is what you did to us. liz: what's your take, dennis? >> i love maxine because she is good for my newsletter. she gives me at least 20 pages a year i can comment upon. i love the fact that she is still in the congress. i am dismays, however, that she may be the chair of the house banking or finance committee. what i understand is in the back room she is amenable to compromise. she is not nearly as bad in-house as she is when she is outhouse. so let's give her a chance. but nonetheless. there are better people to put in positions of authority for the banking committee. but she is good for 20 pages a year. i like her for that reason. liz: what's your short-term outlook for the stock market going up or down? >> for the next several weeks, i think do

nadler: mr. speaker, i rise in support of h.r. 7164, a bill to add ireland to the e-3 nonimmigrant visa program. in 2005, soon after the united states and australia finalized the australia-u.s. free trade agreement, congress created the e-3 program for australian nationals. that program provides up to 10,500 temporary visas. -- h-1-b visas. and practical al application in fields such as . ience, engineering, computer australia has not used all of the visas. in light of this fact, this bill will add ireland to the program, thus allowing irish nationals to use some of those remaining unused visas. as amended, it will take the number of e-3 visas unused by australia in a given fiscal year and make it available to the irish in the following fiscal year. this is a commonsense bill that recognizes the bond we share with our closest and most steadfast allies. congratulate my friend, mr. sensenbrenner, mr. neal, ranking member of the ways and means committee, soon to be chairman of the ways and means com

congressman jerry nadler, who's likely the next chair of the house judiciary committee, will respond. >>> and breaking news, we are standing by for new numbers in a key senate race that is still too close to call. let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. i'm kate bold in for erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, heartbreak in thousand oaks. the close knit california community is now the site of yet another deadly mass shooting in this country. 12 people killed. at least 21 others injured after a gunman stormed into the borderline bar and grill late last night and there's new video tonight from inside that bar as the gunman is opening fire. i want to warn you that what you're about to see and hear may be disturbing. >> coming out this door! >> the screams, the shots shattering the community. now, police, victims and their families, they're left just, again, looking for answers, looking for a motive, looking to make sense of the senseless. why would a gunman who witnesses say was dressed in a black trench coat and police say was armed with a.45 caliber glock handgun, why would he enter

nadler, from elizabeth warren and others, they are coming after the white house and this administration so many ways they think aren't the right thing to do. lou: i have to say the right person is in the oval office and hope the right person will be leading the minority in the house along with majority leader mcconnell. it's still not a fair fight for the dems but there it is. congressman, good to have you with us, wish you all the luck. jim jordan. >> thanks, lou. lou: the national left-wing media attacking the president of the united states for revoking jim acosta's white house access. >> you know, i was trying to ask a question of the president at this press conference and obviously a question they didn't like. >> what i saw was battery not by jim acosta but the young white house aide. >> he's screaming about jim acosta. >> this is about donald trump trying to distract how weak he is now. >> the freedom of the press is under assault. >> all of this a convenient distraction after republicans lost the house and the president fired his attorney general. >> you don't like rude reporters?

representative jerry nadler speaking out strongly about the situation.a constitutionally peril perilous moment for the country. the president may think he is above the law, but he will learn swiftly he will be held accountable. we have a president. not a monarch. >> that is the incoming judiciary chair. can he do anything now? >> not yet. get to know jerry nadler very well. he will call people in and questioning them about this. i think it is interesting on election night and election day, we heard nancy pelosi talking a lot about bipartisanship and saying democrats would be a check and balance on the president and his authority. she said we don't want to talk about impeachment. we don't want to overreach our investigation. downplaying the democrats going after republicans in the white house. just 24 hours, the president drops this perfectly into their lap giving them reason to bring this up and you can bet it will be the first thing they go after. the judiciary committee is looking at the things from the russia interference part of things, but also the

and rep jerry nadler also flipping his stance. in 2017, she said that sessions must resign as ag. now he's saying this. >> this is part of the pattern of interference by the president in the mueller obstruction. that's evidence of obstruction of justice. >> dan: nancy policies and anything less than session's resigning anything acceptable. she's now accusing trump -- maria, you have to come in. you know this is going to be clashed of the titans. i don't get it. we were told by democrats, including al franken when he was in the senate, that jeff sessions was part of this massive russian collusion scheme, they were totally inappropriate. they attacked and demanded he recuse himself. now he recuse himself and all of a sudden the democrats are jumping on the sessions bandwagon. it is sessions part of the schema or is he the good guy trying to investigate this scheme? >> marie: the sessions thing was interesting. the tweets you read was before they recuse himself. i never said he should resign but i did say he should recuse himself and

from new york, and jerry nadler does not know who you are.appens to be talking loud on the phone revealing his strategy for his entire party, which affects the country. i'm so glad he's got his hands on the wheel. he also said, oops, we have a lot of people who got elected who happen to be moderates that might not be that allied with us, correct? >> he was more worried actually about what was happening to the democratic party coalition. he feels they have lost working-class voters, that they are now going to republicans, they can no longer call themselves the party of the working class. the new voters they are getting are the never-trump elite republicans who they think hurt the overall brand of thehe democratic party. he was alsot worried that the thriving economy could pose problems because if anything bad happens to it, he's worried democrats will be blamed for it. >> brian: wow. so you don't need to get that glass and put it to the wall to find out what he's saying. you just have to be on the train and he's yelling it. mollie hemingway, t

has already been talking with judiciary committee ranking member, the head democrat there, jerry nadler of new york and other key members of confronting the white house over whitaker's appointment while protecting the special council. nadler who becomes committee chair raised concerns. >> the president is creating a constitutional crisis that is a moment of peril for our country. we think it is very important the president be put on notice that he is not above the law. >> more on this whole notion of a constitutional crisis a bit later on in our broadcast as well. the white house is not backing down from any of this, as you might imagine. it appears ready to support whitaker despite calls for him to step aside. >> we had an attorney general who was recused from it. we now don't have an acting attorney general who is recused from it. nobody wants to prolong it. we have done everything that we have been asked to do. i don't know why he'd be recused. >> but there are objections to this matt whitaker coming from other corners, including but not limited to kellyanne conway's own household. h

twenty twenty and i think scottie when you have maxine waters has had a financial services jerry nadler as head of judiciary adam schiff as intelligence intel and then you've got a larger cummings i think is oversight these are not middle of the road members of the house these are left liberal members and i don't think are going to be able to help themselves i think they're going to be extremely aggressive and i think that then calls into question scott is a lot of these democrats will be potentially picking up seats have been running as more moderate or centrist candidates i think they're going to put them in trouble and i think getting a plane to trump sands in two thousand and twenty eight how aggressive are the democrats now and their victory that number one over the next twenty four hours but more importantly how are they going to govern for the next two years are we basically just facing the next two years of a stalemate and a hissy fit between the two parties it depends on how aggressive is going to depend on how the total ends up tonight i think is probably going to be somewhere

you heard jerrold nadler say he doesn't think it is. your husband raised this question. he said that mr. trump's installation of matthew whitaker after forcing the resignation of jeff sessions is unconstitutional and it's illegal and it means that anything mr. whitaker does or tries to do is invalid. at that same press conference on friday the president was asked about it. >> kellyanne conway's husband -- >> you mean mr. kellyanne conway? >> he wrote that you were unconstitutionally appointing people. >> he's trying to get publicity for himself. why don't you do this, ask kellyanne conway that question. >> here we are. >> here we are. >> a few things. spouses disagree every day. i'm sure you can appreciate that. >> you don't agree with your husband's argument? >> no. it's not relevant. people disagree on the constitution. we have a u.s. circuit court system there to interpret the law and they disagree about the constitution regularly. i think there's something else instructive here. the president's lawyers told him it's constitutional. there's a statute from 1998, the va

i've sat next to jerry nadler as my ranking member for quite a few years.d recognize he should have tremendous power. this administration could and should welcome legitimate oversight by that committee, by oversight and the other committees. i'm going to encourage them to do that. but if jerry starts off as he was heard on the train talking about wanting to impeach a supreme court justice as soon as they get in control, that's absurd. he needs to realize that overreaching is one thing in the minority but it is something very different when you have the actual gavel and you need to be responsible in your oversight. i'm hoping congressman nadler, who i have known for many years and worked with will calm down and realize it is now time to be a reasonable leader. >> sandra: i want to ask you about this. paul manafort hitting the breaks on cooperating with mueller. this according to business insider piece. this is a quote from it saying that talks between manafort and mueller have apparently stalled. they write, quote, it is unclear why talks between manafort an

jerry nadler joins me in a moment. he is asking for him to recuse because he has this well documented hostility putting the investigation at grave risk. two source close to whitaker tell the washington post he has no intention of doing that. leaders are sending another letter demanding they preserve the key documents relative to mueller in the firing of sessions. a lot of officials put on notice. we remind you that concealing, removing or destroying the documents itself could constitute a crime. thank you for joining me tonight. are you in the middle of it. you are not waiting. why did you come out swinging and put so many officials on notice and what happens if he does not recuse, mr. whitaker? >> we came out right away. the president is creating a constitutional crisis, his actions fit a clear pattern of interference and attempting of sabotage of the special counsel's investigation. and we think it's very important that the president be put on notice that he is not above the law and the american people will not toler

jerry nadler represents a liberal part of new york city. if he does not draw blood from donald trump in some way, there will be liberals wanting to take him on in a primary in two years. mr. neil was challenged on his left. he survived a primary challenge easily. he is the one who would be the likeliest to move first to get the president's tax returns. he has unilateral power to issue a subpoena. one thing the republicans did is change the house rules to give these chairman essentially unilateral power to issue subpoenas. they don't have to go through the formality of a committee vote. there are provisions that could allow a vote to make those tax returns public. host: going back to nancy pelosi's leadership, yesterday -- on election day, we had a caller saying he voted. he is an independent. he voted straight democrat because he wants the democrats to hold the president accountable, but does not want them to go too far. guest: that will be a tricky balancing act. some of this will be more under the radar. you will hear headlines about how

jerry nadler says we'll be issuing subpoenas when warranted. is this a subpoena that's warranted? will you have to bring him before the house and ask was he asked for a loyalty oath? . >> i think it would be fair for the house judiciary committee to bring the new acting attorney general in front of them regardless. because every time you get a person in office, you bring them before the committee and grill them and ask them questions. so i would expect that will happen. hopefully, it won't take a subpoena to get the answers the committee needs. if that's what it takes? that's what it takes. >> when you look at this in the context of last night, do you think that the president was on his way to doing this regardless? do you think this relates to his fears about what mueller may have in store or what you guys may have in store? and how would you ballpark last night's victory? a rip him, a wave? a big wave? >> yeah -- a rip him,pleripple,? >> we won a lot of state legislative races and governor's races. so i thought it was a strong night w. we saw other states, texas and florida get

>> i spoke to jerry nadler, the top ranking democratic member, which means he's most likely to chairmittee. he put a marker down on the record when we spoke. he says if now donald trump tries to sabotage the mueller probe or firing key people or you using the pardon power, quote, all options are on the table. they didn't use the word impeachment. when someone running the judiciary committee says, all options are on the table, there's a clear marker. i said, if things are done to slow the mueller probe, what can you do? he didn't want to do hypotheticals, but he said they have the power to order all documents legally preserved, that could include sealed indictments, grand jury material, other things legally protected. this is another way we're seeing directly from people on the staff of these committees or in this case the ranking member himself outlining very clearly in public what they want to do. i also asked him about the potential removal of jeff sessions. he struck an interesting note. he said it would be suspicious if donald trump moves with haste to try to get rid of jeff sess

one of the top democrats investigation, incoming judiciary chairman jerry nadler, joins me. >>> later, we have a deeper report on how mueller busted manafort for lying and whether this is all part of a pardon strategy. >>> also, the man that manafort replaced as the head of the trump campaign, he joins me later to react to what this all means. all that tonight. >>> let's begin with why this story is shaking washington. "ed guardian" citing sources saying manafort and assange held a secret meeting in london, part of a series of meetings they were doing dating back to 2013. the key to collusion could be this alleged meeting which was exactly around the time manafort joined trump's campaign, spring 2016. a source saying all of this went down around march, the very month when manafort started working for trump. the source is telling "the guardian" the key meeting lasted 40 minutes and they have detailsic like that he was dressed in chinos, a cardigan, and a light shirt. adding to the intrigue, manafort wasn't logged at the embassy, breaking protocol. tonight paul manafort is denying this

and my friend, jerry nadler, with whom i served for six years in the u.s.already said he wants to know what the president's motives are. i think we can pretty much conclude what his motives are. that is to protect himself. so i expect jerry nadler to be chairing the judiciary committee in the house. and then to proceed with what he needs to do to get to the bottom of this. and to protect the mueller investigation. >> do you think that this is where it ends? that he appoints matthew whitacre as acting attorney general and whitaker maybe, you know, tries to keep -- tries to shrink or contract the bounds of the mueller investigation? or do you fear more is going to happen? >> i think as long as the mueller investigation continues that this is yet more actions by the president that goes to obstruction of justice. >> doesn't president trump have the right to have as attorney general whoever he sees fit, as long as that person is ultimately confirmed by the senate? >> i think motives matter. and this is why the obstruction of justice is such a big issue for muell

i think the thousands judiciary committee under congressman joe nadler who represents manhattan willk to begin an impeachment of the president and justice kavanaugh. i think the house intelligence committee under congressman schiff will reopen the investigation of all the communications of the trump campaign supposedly had with russians during the 2016 elections. these would be almost shadow investigations of what bob mueller is doing without the requirement of secrecy. they can release whatever they can couple with that they think will embarrass the republicans as the republicans have done the past two years to democrats. blake: he says he thinks the president may not comply with some of this stuff. the president was asked about his tax returns an brought up the point they are under audit though i'm not sure that would matter for a subpoena. if the president says i'm not giving you something or we are not giving you something, is this headed to the supreme court at some point. >> yes and no. the court does not like to get involved in disputes between the two political branches of go

. >> when i had congressman jerrold nadler, democrat from new york, on my sunday show, on "state of the union," he said -- and in all likelihood he'll be the chairman of the house judiciary committee. he said they're going to call matt whitaker, the acting attorney general, before his committee and demand that he testify about all sorts of things about whether or not his appointment was constitutional since he was never senate confirmed, about whether or not he intends to rein in mueller i expect would be a question. democrats had no power, no ability to do that before, and we're also going to see, for instance, in the house intelligence committee, adam schiff is likely going to be the chairman. nia, he's likely going to kick-start the russia investigation that the republicans on the house intelligence committee essentially ended. >> yeah. and maybe at some point get donald trump's tax returns. this is something that democrats at the grassroots level really want to see from this congress. >> the ways and means committee, yeah. >> some people have talked about impeachment, and you've hea

jerry nadler just tonight sent a letter demanding answers to 100 outstanding letters from democrats on their committee alone. he wants those answers by the end of the year. those are pertaining to issues about white house communications with the justice department. the democrats believe were inappropriate. if those answers do not come by the end of the year, expect a lot of subpoenas to be issued. now, as you mentioned, nadler will bring matt whitaker, the acting attorney general, before his committee, but that's just that committee. there are a whole host of other committees from the house oversight committee that wants to look into the president's businesses and whether or not they violated the constitution by accepting foreign payments as well as the house ways and means committee that's raising the prospect of getting the president's tax returns. the house financial services committee also wants to look into the president's ties with deutsche bank, something that they were not able to successfully do in the democratic minority. but at the same time on the floor, they'll push legisl

i'm an appropriator, i've discussed this with other appropriators, we're not there yet but jerry nadler who is likely the next chairman of the judiciary committee in the house has suggested an end of year appropriation bill may be the right vehicle. i think we've done what we can right now, saying we could have a floor vote today. we'll crs that bridge when we get toyota. i'd be willing to consider it as a vehicle. >> senator flake would you be willing to consider that? senator flake: i'm not an appropriator but then it comes to a vote ton the floor. >> is there any other way you think you have? senator flake: i committed not to advance any more nominees through the judiciary committee. we had hearings for 21. they're awaiting action, some of them tomorrow. and they will not receive my vote and with the margins we have in the judiciary committee it means they will not move forward. also i will not vote for any who come to the floor. there are 32, i believe, awaiting action on the floor. now theoretically if the vice president comes and breaks a tie, if all the republicans are for and de

gerald nadler, overheard by molly hemingway talking about impeaching justice kavanaugh.his is truly the lunatics have taken over the asylum it appears in the form of new democratic leadership in the house. >> you hit the nail on the head. a lot of sensible people would tell you quietly and off the record this is a really bad idea. not just sub stanttively but -- substantively but politically. the vigor of what they will go after him will only help the president as far as the 2020 re-election bid is concerned. so the problem is the, i think the base, particularly, the money that represents the bloodstream of the party at this point has moved way to the left. they want the investigations. whether they are a good idea or not. the base will be served. >> lou: quickly, the president says he and the senate will return in kind if the house insists on these vacuous evacuations. i say "vacuous" i'm being bipartisan. we have seen the fruit of house investigations and it has been pure bitterness and no substance whatsoever. i shouldn't say that. little substance whatsoever. your th

it will be interesting to see where nadler goes.talking about putting the screws to him if he does anything with the mueller probe and who he appoints as successor sessions. that's murderers row for donald trump. my guess is they will turn the heat on him. i am getting this from democrats. they will turn the heat up on him with these investigations to try to get him to acquiesce on certain policy issues. it's good cop-bad cop. bad guys are those guys, maxine waters and schiff. >> they have to figure out what their mandate is after winning the house. voters mostly went for healthcare. if the dems are going to go after getting him on taxes and finances. a lot of voters don't care about that. they are there because they worry about their wallets. the dems are going to have to show some results for voters or else 2020 is an issue for them. >> that's why i think they will use the investigation as the hammer. >> he's talking about how obstructionist they are. >> charlie, you spoke earlier about the kumbaya. i would love more of that. what

jerry nadler talking about the investigations he will do, maxine waters, she has to bring her caucus to the idea that we are not the resistance, we are the governing majority cutting deals with donald trump. >> how do they thread the needle? the president was asked about this and talked about he was asked whether you can be under investigation with subpoenas at the white house but also sitting down to make deals on infrastructure, healthcare or anything else and he said no, unacceptable. investigate me your work with me but he doesn't want to see both from the house because then nothing gets done. >> i think there are things that will get done. one of the things i saw that was interesting today, historically female politicians are more successful with working at a party different from their own reaching across the island getting things done. nancy pelosi is a female if she ends up being how speaker. he seems very confident about her becoming speaker and democrats want to cut deals but they have to cut deals that are not just right for the american people but the constituents in this

representative jerry nadler says they want whitaker to testify. >> our very first witness after januaryill summon, if necessary, subpoena mr. whitaker. he's totally unqualified and his only qualification seems to be that he wants to be -- that the president wants him to be the hatchet man to destroy the mueller investigation. >> other house democrats are warning, don't overdo it. >> the investigations are sexy, they're interesting, but also our strongest purpose here is to put forward a positive agenda. >> i'm not going to be handing out subpoenas like somebody is handing out candy on halloween. i take this as a lawyer and as an officer of the court, i take subpoenas very seriously. >> meanwhile the president is heading back to washington. he was in paris to mark the 100th anniversary of the end of world war i. here at home, the whitaker appointment is getting some new attention. nbc white house correspondent jeff bennett is joining me with the latest. jeff, i'm sorry you weren't there to have some croissants in paris, but i'm glad you're here to talk about it. >> conway said she was im