as soon as he got into office, he announced, we really don't need to reform nafta. we'll find other ways to help people who've been hurt by nafta, and of course they've done nothing. in fact, he's pushed more free trade deals, korea, colombia, et cetera, you know, he keeps pushing. and now the trans-pacific trade partnership, which will make things even worse. >> yeah. you say if he wins the trans-pacific partnership, he'll be giving away big chunks of our remaining manufacturing base to japan and vietnam and other pacific rim countries. why does he want to do that? >> because he's the fund-raiser in chief. and again, this goes back to bill clinton because obama's really just imitating bill clinton. clinton made an alliance with the daley machine in chicago, which obama inherited that alliance with the two daley brothers. the people who were thriving are the people in power. rahm emanuel is now mayor of chicago. bill daley and rahm emanuel were the chief lobbyists for passing nafta under clinton. they're the ones who rounded up the votes. they're the ones who made t

obama himself, in the 2008 campaign, said that nafta, north american free trade agreement, had cost the country a million jobs. but in order to understand what's happening, you've got to go to these cities that are being hollowed out and destroyed, like fostoria, ohio. i did a big piece about three years ago for a foreign newspaper, because nobody wants to read it here, about the closure and the moving of the autolite spark plug plant to mexicali, mexico. >> from fostoria. >> from fostoria, ohio. >> by the way, it was in ohio that obama, during the campaign of 2008, made one speech in which he claimed that nafta had cost a million jobs, 50,000 of them in ohio. >> right. he did it to hurt hillary clinton because he wanted to hang nafta on the clintons, on the clinton couple. >> because president clinton, bill clinton -- >> bill clinton. >> -- had sponsored it with the republicans in 1993. >> because he made a tactical political decision that it would be a great thing to move the democratic party to the center -- i would call it move

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nafta was a disaster. here it is. >> i'm the first one to admit that past trade deals haven't always lived up to the hype and that's why we have gone after countries that break the rules at our expense. >> why is this deal any better than nafta or any worse? why does the president believe

with nafta, we didn't have anything like that. nafta was a hard sell for democrats notwithstanding.ect they were not nearly strong enough. >> let's listen how democrats talk about international trade when they're running for president. let's hear president obama when he was a candidate. >> i would immediately call the president of mexico the president of canada to try to amend nafta, because i think that we can get labor agreements in that agreement right now and it should reflect the basic principles that our trade agreements should not just be good for wall street it should also be good for main street. >> hillary clinton said basically the same thing when she was running, but president obama, when elected, never made that phone call and never talked about nafta again. >> when he was negotiating treaties, lawrence subsequent treaties, he did insist on provisions that weren't in nafta. but you're right, when you're the president of the united states and you're looking at the -- the competitive position of american business and industry you have a different perspective than when you

as nafta been beneficial? guest: no, i think nafta has cost jobs in the united states and driven down wages in this country. since nafta took affect, specifically with mexico. prior to nafta, we had a trade surplus with mexico. we were generating jobs as a result of art trade. in tthousand 11 alone, it causes almost __ trade is just the iceberg. wages have been driven down for americans. essentially, all people without a college degree, a huge part of the american workforce. guest: lots of things to stay here but let's start with the job. this is absolutely critical for manufacturers and for the country. exports absolutely create higher paying jobs. if we are not part of the global economy in a more successful way, we will not be able to sustain and grow new jobs. a lot of economists have looked at this and almost all of them say that the job offers that we have the united states are very little it treated to trade. it is technology, structural changes. when you look at manufacturing jobs, those are high payin

nafta. no enforceability. the environmental impact under this, where corporations from partnering nations are able to override our domestic flaws. are able to sue based on the fact that future profits are at stake. are able to undercut our clean air, clean water resource protection in this nation. i don't think the american people know that, nor do they want that. i think what has been said over and over again by my colleagues and bears repeating is a simple point. we are elected with an obligation to do our job. fast track robs us of that obligation and that authority. we have been elected to assure that the public's right to know is presented to them. fast track robbed us of the obligation denies the people the right to know, and we proceed with an agreement that it's not enforceable and built on a legacy of failures. the nafta debate, i was watching it i had a disease long ago, i was watching c-span or something, and a colleague from arizona that isn't here anymore got up to defend the deal. and he said on

since nafta passed this is an incredible figure. the united states has wrapped up $9.5 trillion in trade deficits. we have a big chart to show that somewhere in this room and a loss of 47 million 500,000 outsourced jobs. the workers in northern ohio have seen the loss of over 5 million manufacturing jobs and wages have dropped for the average family $7000 a year. i have stood in places along with my colleagues like ohio and michigan avenue in the maquiladora in northern mexico where tried to out of buffalo relocated windshield wiper manufactured and we visited the homes of mexican workers who worked for a penny wage, penny wage jobs and lives in squalor. what kind of a gift is that to the world? i have stood in vietnam watching children, little boys under age standing with bare feet and is praying with lacquer and breathing in all of those fumes, hurting their own health for the future, for export to the united states and today as i stand here is an ohio and two plans, u.s. steel and the rate of ohio has announced over 700 layoffs i

been nafta has been mentioned here before. if we had to negotiate it all over again we'd probably do some things differently. the point that you made earlier today is that we do have the opportunity here to negotiate nafta at least in part maybe in whole. i'm not sure. but just drill down on that particular -- how do we -- people say it hasn't been all that helpful to the u.s. it's been, i think arguably very helpful to mexico. they have a vibrant middle class today. there are probably as many mexicans going into mexico as there are mexicans coming into the u.s. today. i think it's arguably been pretty good for the mexicans, not entirely bad for us but sort of a mixed bag. but in terms of one issue mentioned by senator isaacson in poultry, we have a real problem in nafta with canada as you probably know. just drill down on the things that we know now about nafta. what can we do differently and what are we going to do differently with respect to the trans trans transpacific trayspartnership. >> nafta was 20 years ago. lots has

has nafta been beneficial?uest: i think it has cost jobs the united states and driven down wages in this country. we have seen that since nafta took effect, specifically with mexico, prior to and after, we had a trade surplus with mexico. that has turned into a trade deficit of almost $100 billion. in 2010 alone, that cost us almost 700,000 u.s. jobs. the jobs are just the tip of the iceberg because a competition with low-wage workers in countries like mexico and china has driven down wages for working americans. not just those who compete directly with imports and exports, but everybody who has a similar set of schools. -- set of skills. that means people about it college degree. as a huge part of labor first. guest: let us start with jobs fear that is critical to the manufacturers. exports absolutely produce higher-paying jobs. as we are not part of the global economy in a more successful way, we not going to be able to sustain and grow new jobs. lots of economists have look at this and almost all them say th

what america needs is not more of the same nafta-style trade agreements. what america and american workers need is a trade policy that creates jobs, opportunity and wealth in this country first. we need balanced trade accounts not trade accounts that are in the red, with every single country with which we have racked up these deficits. the american people not just the global corporate elite need to be in the driver's seat again and that's where congress has to do its job. our nation needs a trade policy that is results-oriented, that will yield jobs in america. we must open closed markets of the world. we must grow our exports. and we must hold who wrote those agreements accountable for the damage they have done. and we must not create any more free trade agreements that addition a hole deeper. we must create jobs by moving our nation towards economic independence by rebuilding our own manufacturing base at home, by restoring our domestic energy security and by making sure that these agreements result not in deficits, but in trade balances and even more im

as five nafta, which was a republican created deal & -- as far as nafta, which was a republican createdeal and signed by a democrat, those are the trade deals we do not need. we need trade deals that look out for the american worker. host: you want the american worker taken care of when these deals are being made. caller: exactly, exactly. host: in terms of salary, job protection, what areas? caller: as far as job protection, as far as salary. and we need to go back with pensions. having a person work for 30 years, 25 years. he should be able to go home sit down and have a pension to look forward to. we need to get back to unions and bargaining rights for the low-wage workers and the middle-class workers. host: felicia, good morning columbia, maryland, independent line. caller: good morning. hello, everyone. you know what, this is my pet peeve. almost everything that i buy, i have it for about a month and it will break. and you take it back to the owner and he will say, well, it will be better if you buy it then to have it repaired. -- than to have it repaired. you pay just as much to h

. >> esto viene de un latigazo que viene desde el verano en donde la nafta subiÓ. >> segÚn cifras mÁs estas personas tambiÉn deben comprar un seguro de auto. >> realmente se necesita un duro para manejar un automovil? >> es ilegal circular en un automÓvil sin seguro. es conveniente comprar un seguro antes de comprar un auto. >> como se puede obtener un buen seguro y de bajo costo? >> hay un programa que se llama seguro de bajo costo de california que ofrece una oferta mÁs o econÓmica asÍ que si eres de bajo recurso se puede informar en el sitio web. >> que cosas hay que tener en cuenta para elegir una pÓliza? >> el costo del seguro puede variar mucho y es importante informarse para obtener la mejor cobertura y un buen precio. por lo menos hay que tener tres cotizaciones distintas si tiene alguna pregunta siempre nos puede llamar nosotros al nÚmero cinco o >> gracias. >> a los asistentes en su mayorÍa jÓvenes lanzaron un llamado al congreso que ahora dominan los republicanos. en >> muchas personas marcharon por la vida en contra de la legalizaciÓn del aborto. >> necesitamos decirles a

american workers have suffered great harm under deals like nafta. they must be able to consider carefully the con consequences of future deals. fast track would be yet another insult to the american worker. that is why i, and my fellow members of this coalition say no to fast track. it is now my pleasure to introduce a public figure that spent his career fighting hard on behalf of american workers. the president of the afl-cio richard trunk. [ applause ] >> thank you, rosa, it's good to be with all of you, let me say happy new year. up hill on capitol hill you have a simple choice, you approve fast track and by doing so pull a curtain in front of another effort to drive jobs out of america and push down wages, or deny fast track and give us a chance to raise wages and narrow the ever widening income gap. that's as easy as it gets, but there is mrp. i have a lot of friends in politics and there isn't one that says you want to lower wages or drive down our standard. no one says they like to drive our communities to ruin, and that is kpangtly what our

the nafta debate, i was watching. i was watching c-span actually, i think. a colleague got up to defend the deal and said on the floor, nafta is vital. it will end our problem with immigration. >> yeah, right. >> it will secure our borders. it will provide growth for our country in terms of jobs and growth and security for latin america. i ask you to judge that comment to the reality of today and fight this fast track. thank you very much. [applause] >> i will introduce myself. i am from los angeles. i represent the port of los angeles, which is the largest container port in the united states and i understand the economic value of trade. i am very much pro- trade. trade supports millions of good paying jobs for hard-working americans at our ports and throughout the supply chain throughout the country. some people mischaracterize us as being anti- trade. i repeat, i strongly support trade. however, i am opposed to trade deals that have harmful consequences for american workers and deals that give unfair advantages to those who exploit workers and destroy this

these trade agreements are different than nafta.greedress labor standards, environmental standards, state owned enterprises. intellectual property protections. so many things that were not addressed 20 years ago in our older free trade agreements. >> so you're confident. >> i feel good about it. >> this is one of the items that the president touts can be in cooperation with the republicans now in control of congress. is tax reform another one? >> yes. thing business tax reform is another area for cooperation the congress right now. >> what are the marketer s ermarketers, the president needs to have? >> it thoos be neutral. something that doesn't hurt the income statement or balance sheet of the american people. the president said let's bring the corporate tax rate down and let's remove a number of the deductions so that we can make the deal of revenue neutral. as far as i can tell the president is really enthusiastic about trying to find these opportunities for common ground to get things done. >> but, you know first day, we get the

they have a dialogue shared by the vice president and it is improving nafta. >> the north american free trade agreement. >> it is already a $1.3 trillion trade area. >> what is the biggest obstacle to more trade? >> a lot of this is cleaning up regulation. we have testing protocols and different regulations for products. those things that can take away productivity and competitiveness. crossing the border with merchandise is costly because of delays and inefficiencies. >> could obama and with a yes? would that improve economic relations? >> it would take away tensions with mexican americans in the u.s.. -- in the u.s. i did not think he was as aggressive as the previous mexican presidents who have come to the u.s. and demanded drivers licenses. he played it well and thank obama for what he had done. >> how about on cuba? do you think that the president will pressure more democracy? >> i do not doubt that he will try. he says he is quick to try. the mexico and cuba relationship has been bad since castro took over. it is not as though they have not tried to help you for. obama is trying t

they told us we would gain jobs with nafta. have a bigger trade deficit with mexico now that we've seen in such a long time. it seems to get bigger all the time. in my state of minnesota, we've lost 13,000 jobs due to nafta. some people have gained jobs and some people have lost, but the net is lost for my state. host: that you can pin on nafta. guest: yes. this is a brookings institute study. i would be happy to support a trade deal that actually enhanced both sides of the equation, but the ones we've been negotiating do not we have poor enforcement mechanisms with regard -- the ones we've been negotiating do not. we have poor enforcement mechanisms with regard to these. i am no protectionist. we live in a globalized world. we are going to have to trade stuff here and there. i think the terms of the agreement have to be beneficial to the united states, too. and i don't mean just to rich business owners, i mean to the average worker. host: jackson michigan. this is eugene. welcome. caller: yes, sir. good morning, mr. ellison. i

but we lost those just to nafta. when people tell me now as a member of congress, we want you to just fast track this trade deal, this transpacific partnership deal and trust us that the partnership is going to work and all you have to do is rubber stamp the trade deal, i remember, and mr. pocan, you remember, and that's what requires us to say no way that we cannot give fast track authority over -- hand it over and say whatever the deal that has been negotiated, we will just take that deal for the american people. while you and i know better. one of the things that has long concerned me is getting wind that our trade representative on behalf of my constituents and your constituents, were negotiating away buy american provisions, negotiating them away, without us having a voice in that conversation. and let's look at those buy america provisions. in 2012, 68 of our colleagues joined us in saying to president obama don't negotiate away the buy america provision. and then just last year, 120 members of congress said, m

i remember the nafta fight. they're laying some tough markers -- first of all he has to negotiate that and then go to the senate to ok that. >> the president has been burned before when he thought he was getting good signals from the fiscal bargain. does he have a new strategy? is there something that leads him to believe it can be different? >> within of the interesting things about barack obama he's got this idea of whose political interests are going to fit in with his political interest in the tax reform he thinks mitch mcconnell for instance has two years and the republicans want to show that they can govern. he thinks an incentive for them to work and develop some sort of idea if mitch mcconnell wants to show two years of his leadership facing a tougher calendar for republican senators wants to hold that majority. he thinks they can use that and work with him across the aisle. it is truly a good question. we haven't seen a whole lot of evidence of it. >> are are there any memos up his sleeve? >> he's deali

nafta being but one. at this moment, the president has asked us members of congress, to pass what is known as the fast track, which basically gives authority to the president to cut a deal and then bring it to congress and we don't get to amend it. it's either an up or down vote. they say that's the only way they can negotiate. well, if that's so, then that's no way to negotiate because we are the representatives. actually, the constitution very clearly leaves to congress the issue of international trade negotiations. it's our responsibility and i'm not about to find a situation in which we give to the administration unfettered authority to cut a deal on international trade when you consider what happened with nafta, when you consider some of the other trade deals that have hollowed out the trading sector. associated with that is jobs for middle-class families. we have over 19 million families in manufacturing in 1990. it went down to just over 10 million as a result of these trade deals that you talked a

trade he's ready to defy some of the democrats of his party on this i'm old enough to have covered the nafta fight occurring the clinton years and i remember how tough that has with your fellow democrats and they're already laying some tough markers on whether -- forever he has to negotiate that and then go to the senate to ok that. >> the president has been burned before when he thought he was getting good signals from the -- from the republicans on things like entitlement reform, the fiscal bargain strategy. does he have a new strategy? is there something that leads him to believe it can be different? >> barack obama looks at the landscape and he thinks he's got the idea of whose kids are going to fit in with his. on the tax reform issue, he thinks mitch mcconnell for instance has two years and the republicans want to show that they can govern. he thinks that's an incentive for them to work and develop some sort of idea if mitch mcconnell wants to show two years of his leadership facing a tougher calendar for republican senators in 2016, wants to hold that majority, he thinks they can use

guest: i share your concerns about nafta. we have to figure out how to revise manufacturing in this country. the energy advantage with the low cost of energy __ that has been coming down. we are basically starting to export energy. that is giving our manufacturers an advantage. we will have a number of trade agreements that are under consideration. my bottom line question is will those make our labor force weaker or stronger? will it help us make more products home, or will simply export jobs? there were a lot of provisions in after the resulted in the things that you described. we have to stay tuned on this. there will be a lot of discussion on trade in this congress. host: does the president have a lot of democrats on his side? guest: i suspect that if they had a trade agreement on the floor, they would have a good chance on passing it. this is a situation where you have the president and many republicans in agreement. the democrats are split. there is a lot of wariness on what this will do to wages and employment. we have

they told us we would gain jobs with nafta.e have a bigger trade deficit with mexico now that we've seen in such a long time. it seems to get bigger all the time. in my state of minnesota, we've lost 13,000 jobs due to nafta. some people have gained jobs and some people have lost, but the net is lost for my state. host: that you can pin on nafta. guest: yes. this is a brookings institute study. i would be happy to support a trade deal that actually enhanced both sides of the equation, but the ones we've been negotiating do not we have poor enforcement mechanisms with regard -- the ones we've been negotiating do not. we have poor enforcement mechanisms with regard to these. i am no protectionist. we live in a globalized world. we are going to have to trade stuff here and there. i think the terms of the agreement have to be beneficial to the united states, too. and i don't mean just to rich business owners, i mean to the average worker. host: jackson michigan. this is eugene. welcome. caller: yes, sir. good morning, mr. ellison.

texas has become to mexico a really important place always has been for trade and other reasons since nafta their relationship has grown economically stronger. but where you are seeing now is the migration of very wealthy mexicans to texas to san antonio, el paso, houston, austin so you are saying the nature of their relationship began to change. for a long time texas had people from mexico working in low-wage jobs either documented or undocumented but that is changing and i think that's going to make the relationship between texas and mexico actually more important not less important in the coming years. yes maam. >> what are some solutions you might offer for the other two problems education and voting getting the vote out? >> well i think to sum them up the voting issue is kind of complicated but in terms of water the current plan in texas is essentially to build more reservoirs just as we did in the 1960s after the great drought of record. that plan is only currently partially funded and only partially paid for so the first thing is we have to figure out a way to actually pay for assumi

we're going to see probably a trade deal, which is nafta on steroids u which privileges corporations over ordinary people. we're going to see some game e-playing with some of the budget. i think tax reform is tricky. >> when you say tax reform, you just get this light in the eyes of every lobbyist. oh, really? tax reform? >> working people have gotten shafted enough by wall street tax reform. if you really want to see tax reform which will benefit those who have benefitted from the recession, 95% of income has gone to the top 1%. so i do think the president has seen the power of the veto and has used it wisely. >> we're going to see those veto threats. the point we made to the top there about the environmental is so important. that is something, again, when i talk about this disconnect, what was the campaign about and what are they going to do. i think there's a pretty good small d democratic case. we ran on this, we're going to try to pass its. they dnt run a ton on the epa. but that is something they are going to be attacking. and the veto is going to be this line of defense. >> ch

texas has become to mexico a really important place always has been for trade and other reasons since nafta and the relationship is going economically stronger. but what you're seeing now is the migration of very wealthy mexicans to texas to san antonio, el paso houston austin. so you are seeing sort of the nature of the relationship began to change but i think for a long time texas thought of people coming from mexico over to work as undocumented jobs. but that's changing. i think that's going to make the relationship between texas and mexico actually more important not less important in the coming years. >> what are the solutions you might offer for the other two problems, education and voting getting the vote out? >> well, i think to some of them up, the voting issue is kind of complicated but in terms of water, the current plan in texas is essentially to build more reservoirs, just as we did in the 1960s after the great drought of record. appliance only currently partially funded and it is only partially paid for. so the first thing is we have to kowtow to actually pay for it, assuming

nafta was one of the biggest job killers. am 54 years old and i have 3 million miles over the road in all 48 states in the lower 48 in -- and in canada as a truck driver. nafta was one of the biggest job killers, with the unions, killing 10 million jobs. if america wants a 100% workforce in this country, get rid of the regulations, the union, open the coal mines back up drill anywhere we can find it. put america back to work in high paying jobs, and forget about confirmations on people who are anti-american. look at the meeting they had in d.c. with the muslim brotherhood. what business did they have in any d.c. building in this country? not a bit, but they are here trying to overthrow the league of egypt. host: let me show our viewers the moment you are talking about in yesterday's hearing when nominee loretta lynch was asked about waterboarding. >> do you believe that waterboarding is torture and legal? >> waterboarding is torture senator, and illegal. host: also "the washington post" this morning. among her other answers w

example, when he was running for present __ present, __ president, he said that we should re_negotiate nafta. there will be strong labor and environmental protections in the core of the tpp, and they will be fully enforceable. that is important. it is part of our effort to level the playing field. it creates new disciplines on the issues that are affecting real workers, and real production right now __ like state owned enterprises. right now, in other countries, people compete with us on an unlevel playing field. as you mentioned, the digital economy __ uupdating our trade agenda to reflect changes in the digital economy. in all these areas, we are trying to make sure, and use all the tools disposable, to drive more production and manufacturing in the united states. >> let's talk about transparency next. i think this is another area where the public looks to the internet and says, we can find out a lot of information that you could not have like when the trade deals were being discussed in the 1990's. there has been a concern about transparency in the transpacific partnership discussion. the

. >> ever since nafta when another democratic president bill clinton pushed that through congress they think it has been bad for american workers. and the 2016 campaign the next person to live in the white house is going to quickly take over all the debate and rhetoric in 2015, if the president and republican congress are going to come together they'll have a very short window in which to do it libby. >> they often say the senate is comprised of 100 people who want to live here in the white house. we are seeing big personalities emerge. on the republican side of the aisle, ted cruz and rand paul. >> and on the democratic side, bernie sanders the fire brand from vermont elizabeth warren, the democrat from massachusetts being urged from the left to get in the race, she has not so far determined to do so. >> a lot of decisions to be decided in 2015. >> mike shore an al jazeera political contribute. how quickly was libby and mike able to get from the white house to headquarters. >> it's a little different they do it every day. >> there's big news involving jeb bush, the florida governor th

we think it is good for the nafta relationship __ the three countries that are together on trade and investment in security issues. we would hope that we would treat them the same way. second, the keystone pipeline __ i'm going to behave today. that is a political joke. we have been through this thing in every possible way. everybody knows that it creates jobs. the labor unions are vigorously for. everybody knows that with all the studies, does not pose an environmental problem in this country. the thing that really bothers me __ the country that has been our friends, our partner, our supporter in every way, is canada. we achieve them very badly on this position. i think that is a mistake. on the question of exporting oil and gas, you have to look at it into circumstances. we had a circumstance __ one, 120 days ago? prices were higher. there was a good surplus here in the united states. now, it may go down some because of investments as the prices go down. there is plenty of opportunity for us to export oil and gas with, if they want regulation, that is fine. for the advantage of the

but learning the pluses and minuses of economic communities whether europe, nafta we're in a great position. >> ahead why republican candidates scrambling for votes may turn their negative attention away from gay marriage and towards muslims. one man's provocative view of the g.o.p. strategy is next. >> it's been more than two weeks since the paris attacks that killed 17 people. since many have rallied against the attack against the satirical magazine. >> i think that gay marriage has been very effective for republicans, even today. even though the majority of americans support marriage equality that issue is going to be gone. the supreme court will decide. marriage equality will be the law of the land. they must move to another issue to get that to their base. i think muslims will be that issue. >> you mean a group to demoonize, a group to hate. >> i think democrats and republicans need something to motivate their base. you're fighting--if you're running in the 2016 presidential base they poll negative in their views of muslims. this is an easy target. i don't think the republican party is

. >> ever since nafta when another democratic president bill clinton, pushed that through congress. the next person to live in the white house is going to quickly take over all the debate and rhetoric in washington in 2015. if the congress and the president are going to come together they going to have a very small window to do it. >> and the senate is comprised of many who want to be living right here. ted cruz and rand paul taking shots at each other to emerge as a republican leader. >> two presidential candidates, bernie sanders the fire brand from vermont no doubt he's going to be running and elizabeth owens no doubt she may be considering it. >> mike viqueria and libby casey, thank you. >>> detroit is facing a new financial challenge. the county that encompasses the entire city has been moving aggressively against thousands of homeowners who are behind in their property taxes. bisi onile-ere is in detroit with more. >> there are a number of factors for one, there are thousands of detroit residents who have simply fallen behind on their bills. but this is also the first time way

my state of connecticut has lost manufacturing jobs as a result of nafta.k about what will happen with this 12 nation trade agreement. >> congresswoman, the president wants a jobs package. will the republicans try to get good while the going's going and get in this game? >> well you know look the people who are either out of work or have taken work that pays only 2/3 of what they were making before that's absolutely true in manufacturing. you know that's not just a democratic issue. this is something that's happening all over the country. it would be my hope they would understand that it is important, and they have not put forward a jobs bill. they continue to say that but it is not the case. and that's what we need to do. but it's the increase the wages that is critically important today. >> what would be a good jobs package at this point? >> the most immediate jobs package would be back off of these trade agreements and really understand what they might do to employment in america, which is negative. but where the congresswoman is so articulate is an infr

nafta is from clinton. >> yes. i think -- >> 20 years ago. >> i think almost anybody who has a manufacturing business can offshore anywhere. i think the financial services industry had been a big hirer. they're not hiring. retail is hiring but not paying a lot of money. you look at the great job growth there. they were talking about kitchen staff, how that is doing. there are so many people in the labor force. so many immigrants who will take a job. this is very unfortunate. we are in a situation, people want -- we are in a health care-based employment situation. if you want health care you have to get a job. you are willing to do anything for a job in this country. this is a big change. it is hard. they'll do two jobs in this country. this is an expensive country to live in. >> certain parts of it are. there are big divergences given that. what it means for the markets overall, november was revised up to 353,000 jobs from what had been addition of 321,000. october nonfarm jobs revised, also up by about 18,000. une

after a lot of bad provisions in ininer nafta that will deal with what you described.em it's split in because of the concerns he mentioned. i suspect ifha they had a trade agreement on the floor, they would have a pretty good chance at passing it, you have the president and the republicans in agreement, the clmic side are split many of us are looking at the final details before we make any decision. there's an enormous amount of ages a weariness about what this will do to wages employment we have seen that trade agreements when they increase the gdp it's stic good, if they cost us jobs and keep wages down, that's bad. how do you get to a trade agreement that has a net benefitsue - for the country. >> if the party is split on that issue, does that hurt the party? >> i think it's a separate ate debate than the presidential race. the trade agreements have some split within the republican side as well, because you know there's a lot of -- not all trade agreements affect all america the same way. you get some agreements where it will help certain sectors of the economy and not others, ther

guest: i mentioned nafta earlier __ it sets the stage for all of our agreements. when we are not playing by the same set of rules __ we were visiting taiwan and the earlier caller was talking about what other parts of the world are doing. the wind blows over, so china, along the coast, blows right into the neighboring countries. well, that is a problem. whether it is dealing with employment issues, which is extremely important __ making sure that no child is working were being forced to work. so, if we level the playing field __ mmake sure that the enforcement of environmental rules, the work rules to make sure that we are not enslaving any of these folks __ then it becomes a much fairer issue. host: here is tim from kansas city, the republican line. caller: good morning, sir. and my question is on __ what is your viewpoint on the fact of illegal immigrants in this country? we're spending literally probably hundreds of billions of dollars feeding these people, giving them housing, given them everything. and they're not even citizens. they don't even belong here. g

we are building the broadest coalition for fair trade that this country has seen including in the naftabuilding a coalition in the key congressional districts, the swing districts that include conservatives, environmentalists, students human rights advocates as well as labor. this will not be labor against trade. this will be the american people talking about fair trade, united with people around the world who are talking about fair trade, not corporate trade. >> he is right -- >> it seems the president has come around a little bit. go ahead -- >> larry is right. i think the american people have had experience with trade agreements and it has not been good. the more we can build a coalition. but the first step is fast track. that is to allow a clean up or down vote on a trade agreement without any real input without any amendments without a full debate of all those sectors that are really impacted and i think will there will be a lot of republicans and democrats that don't want to give this fast track authority for a bad trade deal for tpp. >> the president wants it. the president wants

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