that's not what nafta did. nafta is about securing the property rights of investors in mexico. it removes the mexican government's power to nationalize industries. so it made it so you could build a factory in the zone along the border and take advantage of all of their -- the labor laws and that sort of thing, laws is the wrong word but the economic situation there, and you're in no danger of the government coming in and nationalizing or doing any of the other things that government seems to do. glory no danger of that happening. that's what nafta changed. but tariffs were already low. you look at the transpacific partnership. some of it is about lowering tariffs but a lot of protecting big pharma. and another thing i always have to remind people about trade agreements. we talk about globalization all the time. everybody in d.c. talks about globalization, as to the they know what it means. it means these people are winners, these people are losers and that's god doing that. it's the globe. that's this power that we can't even question is doing that to us. but in fact, trade de

nafta was the worst trade deal.'s entrance into the world trade organization has enabled the greatest job theft in the history of our country. it was bill clinton who signed nafta. people don't remember. in 1993 -- and hillary clinton who supported it. the havoc that it wreaked after he left office was unbelievable. it was also bill clinton who lobbied for china's disastrous entry into the world trade organization, and hillary clinton who backed that terrible, terrible agreement. as secretary of state, hillary clinton stood by idly while china cheated on its currency, added another trillion dollars to the trade deficit, and stole hundreds of billions of dollars in our intellectual property. [applause] mr. trump: i have been talking about china for many years. you know what? no one listens. they are listening now. that, i can tell you. [applause] mr. trump: the city of pittsburgh and the state of pennsylvania have lost 1/3 of their manufacturing jobs since the clinton's put china into the wto. 50,000 factories across

. >> never ever forget nafta. never forget it because you know what it's done and i know what it's done. in touring i have seen the devastation that it left behind. charles: donald trump repeatedly trashing nafta, the trade agreement done by bill clinton. but nafta is not mentioned in the rnc platform that sets the policy agenda for the party the next four years. but trade is a major issue for republicans. while the draft echoes some of his policies, it doesn't call for nafta to be dismantled. before it says we need better negotiated trade agreements that put america first. we cannot allow foreign governments to fliment american access to their markets while stealing our designs, patents, brands, know-how and technology. what does it mean for american jobs? diana, i guess the platform moved towards donald trump. but a lot of people were surprised it wasn't even tougher with respect to ripping up these bad trade deals. >> i'm glad it mentioned the theft of intellectual property. the bipartisan commission on the the

nafta.he steelworker union here in there was a guy on your program not too long ago that said it was george bush one that passed nafta. it was not. it was bill clinton that passed nafta. he's kind it and twisted arms. representative who was later voted out to pass nafta. ont: passed in the house november 17, 1990 three and went into effect january 1, 1994. caller: you can bring up the videos but bill clinton and al gore went out to the midwest, the rust belt and campaigned against nafta. that it was bad and republicans were pushing it and we would lose a lot of jobs. when he became president, he turned 180 degrees and twisted arms. why would you vote for something like that? that heesentative said promised all sorts of economic aid for our area which never came of course. era: we are in another where trade deals are a new part of the discussion. the transpacific partnership. what are you hearing from politicians today? do you trust politicians anymore today regarding trade deals? trust becau

how has nafta worked out? we are 20 years into this. how has nafta worked out for america? >> one of the important things when people talk about trade policy is to recognize a difference between trade and trade policy. globalization is something that happens regardless of what we do. and, trade policy is how we decide to shape those factors that are going on. in that sense, it is not just the trade, it is the technological shifts. people look to a time before a given trade agreement existed and think if it were not for that trade agreement, everything would look like that. noti think that is just what reality would look like. you know, whether it is on a manufacturing floor or on how supply chains are set up, changes in information technology, transportation technology, as the secretary said have linked firms and supply chains together in ways that are different from 30 years ago. it is not simply looking at changes over time. what nafta allowed us to do is as the secretary said, linked together more supply chains across north america and integrate economies in a way that b

i know what nafta was all about. i know how a that agreement can impact workers because i am a worker who has been affected in that manner, but i also heard what the saunders amendment says, and it says that we needed a platform in order to make things transparent. it also said that we needed a platform that would make people .ccountable it also says that we are fighting for things to be there to american workers and to make sure that jobs in america were not going to be taken away from here. we have an obligation to make sure that what we stand on is unified and inclusive. saundersead what lee proposed, you see that it is all there. we're talking about what we need in order to make us strong, not what we stand against, because it is clear what we stand against. we have been there. i worked at a textile plant for all those years not to say that we don't have a voice. we have a voice. we know what credibility and accountability is about. i stand in support of the saunders amendment. [applause] >> two and a half minute

and this undoubtedly -- of nafta. this, undoubtedly, is projected in more productive investments, in the creation of jobs as well, and it has promoted different projects for the development of infrastructure to make our countries even more competitive. i also think that what is happening is that whenever we've had slow-down process in the world economy, we start questioning the model. no doubt, however, and this is something i'm fully convinced of, no doubt that this model makes -- [inaudible] followed and promoted and fostered. while it has had a particularly important strategic partnership with the u.s. and canada, this is a model that still promises a lot of things so much for the benefits of our citizens. because it allows us to consolidate the north american region as a more competitive region with a lot more investment and which we are really taking advantage of opportunities to build labor possibilities for our peoples. this is really something we have to highlight and underline and bear in mind, because it rep

that that includes renegotiating nafta nafta to get a much better deal for america and will walk away if we don't get that kind of a deal. [cheering] our country is going to start building and making things again. [cheering] next comes the reform of our tax laws, regulations and energy rules. while hillary clinton plans a massive tax i mean increase, i have proposed the largest tax reduction of any candidate who has run for president this year, democrat or republican. [cheering] middle-income americans will experience profound relief, and taxes will be greatly simplified for everyone. i mean everyone. [cheering] america is one of the highest-taxed nations in the world. reducing taxes will cause new companies and new jobs to come roaring back into our country. believe me. it will happen and it will happen fast. [cheering] then we are going to deal with the issue of regulation, one of the greatest job killers of them all. excessive regulation is costing our country as much as $2 trillion a year, and we will end and it very quickly. [cheering] we are going to lift the restrictions on the

she supported nafta and she supported china's entrance into the world trade organization. another one of her husband's colossal mistakes and disasters. she supported the job killing trade deal with south korea. she supported the transpacific partnership. which will not only destroy our manufacturing, but it will make america subject to the rulings of foreign government and it's not going to happen. i pledge to never sign any trade agreement that hurts our workers or that diminishes our freedom and independence. we will never ever sign bad trade deals. america first again. america first. instead, i will make individual deals with individual countries. no longer will we enter into the massive transactions with many countries that are thousands of pages long and which no one from our country even reads or understands. we are going to enforce all trade violations against any country that cheats. this includes outrageous theft of international property along with their illegal products and devastating currency manipulation. they are the greatest that ever came about. they are t

, of course, the trade level grew over 500%. 547% to be exact in the last 20 years of nafta, and this undoubtedly is reflected in more protective investments and the creation of jobs as well, and it has promoted different projects for the development of infrastructure to make our countries even more competitive. i also think that what is happening is that whenever we've had slowdown process in the world economy, we start questioning the model. no doubt. however, and this is something i'm fully convinced of, no doubt that this model mexico has followed and promoted and fostered will -- well it has had a particularly important strategic partnership with the u.s. and canada. this is a model that still promises a lot of things so much for the benefits of our citizens, because it allows us to consolidate the north american region as a more competitive region with a lot more investment, and which we are really taking advantage of opportunities to build labor possibilities for our peoples. this is really something we have to highlight, and underline and bear in mind, because it represents so

, of course, the traifd level grew over 500%. 547% to be exact in this last two years of nafta. and this undoubtedly reflects that in more productive investments, in the creation of jobs as well and it has promoted different projects for the development of infrastructure to make our countries even more competitive. and i also think that what is happening is that whenever we've had slowed down process in the world economy, we start questioning the model, no doubt, however, and this is something i'm fully convinced of, no doubt that this model mexico has followed and promoted and fostered, well, it has had a particularly important strategic partnership with the u.s. and canada, this is a model that still promises a lot of things so much for the benefits of our citizens. because it allows us to consolidate the north american region as a more competitive region with a lot more investment. and which we are really taking advantage of opportunities to build labor possibilities for our peoples. this is really something we have to highlight and underlined and bear in mind it represents s

, of course, the trade level grew over 500% -- 547% in the last 20 years of nafta. and this undoubtedly is reflected in more productive investments, in the creation of jobs as well. and it has promoted different projects for the development of infrastructure, to make our countries even more competitive. and i also think that what is happening is that whenever we've had slowdown process in the world economy, we start questioning the model. no doubt, however, and this is something i'm fully convinced of, no doubt that this model mexico has followed and promoted and fostered, well, it has had a particularly important strategic partnership with the u.s. and canada. this is a model that still promises a lot of things so much for the benefits of our citizens. because it allows us to consolidate the north american region as a more competitive region with a lot more investment. and which we are really taking advantage of opportunities to build labor possibilities for our peoples. this is really something we have to highlight and underlined. and bear in mind, this agreement

ella respaldo a nafta y tambiÉn la entrada de china en la organizaciÓn de comercio mundial. trato funesto con corea del sur. va a hacer a los estados unidos sujeto a los dictados de paÍses extranjeros y eso, no lo voy a permitir. yo prometo nunca firmar un tratado comercial que le haga daÑo a nuestros trabajadores o que haga mermar nuestra libertad de independencia. nunca voy a firmar esos tratados! amÉrica primero, una vez mÁs! amÉrica primero! en vez de eso, voy hacer tratos individuales con paÍses individuales. mÁs nunca vamos a entrar en estas transacciones con muchos paÍses que tienen miles de pÁginas y que nadie en nuestro paÍs ni siquiera le ni comprende. vamos a hacer cumplir todas las reglas contra cualquier paÍs que las viole. esto incluye el detener el robo por china de propiedad interior del -- de propiedad intelectual junto con la prÁctica de productos ilegales. ellos son los mayores manipuladores de divisas de la historia. nuestro terrible tratado comercial con china y con muchos otros, serÁn completamente renegociados. eso incluye renegociar nafta para consegu

she supported nafta, and she supported china's entrance into the world trade organization. another one of her hub's colas sal mistakes and disasters. she supported the job killing trade deal with south korea. she supported the transpacific partnership which will not only destroy our manufacturing but it will make america subject to the rulings of foreign governments and not going to happen. (cheers and applause). >> i pledge to to never sign any trade agreement that hurts our workers or that diminishes our freedom and our independence. we will never ever sign bad trade deals. america first again! america first! (cheers and applause). >> instead, i will make individual deals with individual countries. no longer will we enter into these massive transactions with many countries that are thousands of pages long, and which no one from our country even reads or understands. we are going to enforce all trade violations against any country that cheats. (cheers and applause). >> this includes stopping chin china's outrageous theft of the intellectual property. along with their illeg

she supported nafta, and she supported china's entrance into the world trade organization, another one of her husband's colossal mistakes and disasters. she supported the job-killing trade deal with south korea. she supported the transpacific partnership, which will not only destroy our manufacturing but it will make ameca rulings of foreign governments and it's not going to happen. i pledge to never sign any trade agreement that hurts our workers or that diminishes our freedom and our independence. we will never, ever sign bad trade deals. america first again. america first. instead, i will make individual deals with individual countries. no longer will we enter into these massive transactions with many countries that are thousands of pag even reads or understands. we are going to enforce all trade violations against any country that cheats. this includes stopping china's outrageous theft of intellectual property, along with their illegal product dumping and their devastating currency manipulation. they are the greatest that ever came about. they are the greatest currency manipulators

she supported nafta, and she supported china's entrance into the world trade organization. pan colossal mistakes and disasters. she supported the job-killing trade deal with south korea. she supported the trans-pacific partnership, which will not only destroy our manufacturing, but it will make america subject to the rulings of foreign governmes. and it's not going to happen. [ cheers and applause ] i pledge to never sign any trade agreement that hurts our workers, or that diminishes our freedom and our independence. we will never, ever sign bad trade deals. america first, again. america first. [ cheers and applause ] instead, i will make individual deals with individual countries. no longer will we enter into these massive transactions, with many countries, that are thousands of pages long, and which no one from our country even reads or understands. [ applause ] we are going to enforce all trade violations against any country that cheats. [ cheers and applause ] this includes stopping china's outrageous theft of intellectual property, along with their illegal product dump

trade deals, nafta being the worst and most outrageous. we do also have him talking a countryut essentially which is going down the tubes, according to the speech. and opposing what hillary clinton has planned. let's find out what is happening and get to the ground itself in cleveland, ohio. our bloomberg politics reporter joins us. quite something. a lot of cheers. you would expect that. talk about the highlight of the speech. this speech continued many things that won over conservatives during the primary. immigration, cutting off the borders from refugees. applause was when he said he would keep naming conservatives to the supreme court. we have been hearing from his advisers about what people call a general election event. there was very little of this. to be almost a speech from the primaries. not evidence he was seriously trying to expand his coalition. paint in america which was teetering on the edge of disaster. reporter: from the outset, he talked about crime in this country. public safety, lawlessness. those are themes that haven

she supported nafta, and she supported china's entrance into the world trade organization, another one of her husband's colossal mistakes and disasters. she supported the job-killing trade deal with south korea. she supported the transpacific partnership, which will not only destroy our manufacturing but it will make america subject to the rulings of foreign governments and it's not going to happen. i pledge to never sign any trade agreement that hurts our workers or that diminishes our freedom and our independence. we will never, ever sign bad trade deals. america first again. america first. instead, i will make individual deals with individual countries. no longer will we enter into these massive transactions with many countries that are thousands of pages long and which no one from our country even reads or understands. we are going to enforce all trade violations against any country that cheats. this includes stopping china's outrageous theft of intellectual property, along with their illegal product dumping and their devastating currency manipulation. they are the greatest that ev

she supported nafta and she supported china's entrance into the world trade organization. another one of her husband's colossal mistakes and disasters. she supported the job-killing trade deal with south korea. she supported the transpacific partnership, which will not only destroy our manufacturing, but it will make america subject to the rulings of foreign governments. and it's not going to happen. [crowd cheering] i pledge to never sign any trade agreement that hurts our workers. or that diminishes our freedom and independence. i will never ever sign bad trade deals. america first again. america first. [crowd cheering] instead, i will make individual deals with individual countries. no longer will we enter into these massive transactions with many countries that are thousands of pages long and which no one from our country even reads or understands. we are going to enforce all trade violations against any country that cheats. this includes stopping china's outrageous theft of intellectual property, along with their illegal product dumping, and their devastating currency

after 20 years of having nafta, we now have eventually the conditions to modernize it an update it, naftaand potential eyes this agreement even more. enrique that one of the values of the transpacific partnership is that from errorrned experience in nafta, what has worked and what hasn't and where we can strengthen it. a number of the provisions inside the transpacific partnership address previous and wills of nafta make what is already an extraordinarily strong economic relationship between our two countries even stronger. and it will make sure that the integration isal serving not just large companies but is helping small companies and small businesses and workers. so, what i have said consistently is that globalization is a fact because of technology, because of an integrated global supply chain, because of changes in transportation. are not going to be able to build a wall around that. what we can do is to shape how that process of global integration proceeds so that in it increases opportunity for ordinary people so it's creating better jobs so that we are strengthening protections f

she supported nafta and she supported china's entrance into the world trade organization. another one of her husband's colossal mistakes and disasters. she supported the job-killing trade deal with south korea. she supported the transpacific partnership, which will not only destroy our manufacturing, but it will make america subject to the rulings of foreign governments. and it's not going to [crowd cheering] i pledge to never sign any trade agreement that hurts our workers. or that diminishes our freedom and independence. i will never ever sign bad trade deals. america first again. america first. [crowd cheering] instead, i will make individual deals with individual countries. no longer will we enter into these massive transactions with many countries that are thousands of pages long and which no one from our country even reads we are going to enforce all trade violations against any country that cheats. this includes stopping china's outrageous theft of intellectual property, along with their illegal product dumping, and their devastating currency manipulation. they are

he said that nafta is a situation that needs to be reviewed. nafta has clauses in it -- this bill was signed into law in the 1990s and there were supposed to be review periods. they've never been reviewed. trump says we need to review them, it's costing american people jobs and he wants to revise the trade agreement. pence agrees with that. the principles, they definitely agree on. additionally, the fact that they may disagree on some positions, trump never said he want add yes man as vice president. governor pence does that. >> since 2000, mike pence has sworn off negative campaigning and this weekend "60 minutes" asked both men about that. here it is. >> what do you think about your running mate's campaign and the tone and the negativity of it? >> i think this is a good man who's been talking about the issues the american people care about. >> but name calling? >> donald trump's candidacy has been about the issues the american people care about. >> i call her crooked hillary. i didn't ask him to do it, but i don't think he should do it becaus

and the man he introduced as vice president was a large support are of nafta, thought nafta had broughts to the state of indiana. these are the issues people are going to be talking about. >> i want to go to jim acosta. he's there at the new york hilton hotel. the reaction, first few rows were trump supporters, right? >> reporter: that's right. the lone standing ovation i saw was when mike pens was talking and he said this campaign is about making sure that hillary clinton does not become president of the united states. it was interesting to watch this and be in the room. this was, once again, a verien conventional moment by donald trump. by my calculations, he went on for 28 minutes in his introduction of the indiana governor, going from one portion of his stump speech to the next, from hillary clinton to trade to veterans' issues. it would sound like he was woing to go bac m

. >> and he's already flip-flopped on nafta. newt gingrich happened to have been the speaker of the house when nafta passed, was ratified by the congress, but now he's decided he's antitrade. i have to say from a strategist point of view, hogan, isn't it more likely that somebody who doesn't see themselves, let's say, running for president in 2020, wanting to have that political future, it's really got to be somebody who's kind of at the sunset of their career, who doesn't mind gambling on the trump brand, isn't that a real scientific assessment? >> that's realistic. look, we all know that no one really votes for the vice president in typical years. the region they're from doesn't necessarily matter either. bill clinton picked al gore, tennessee and arkansas are contiguous. i don't think that's the issue. the thing you try to do with a vp pick is to supplant the issues you have, backfill where you have weaknesses. newt gingrich checks those boxes for donald trump. i'm not sure when the decision will be made, as governor dean poi

nafta we noto longer are going to be party to the nafta agreement?l he say to those organizations that we are party to, we want to renegotiate everything? steve: we are looking at this now and there are sound policies being built to execute these things on day one. i think the first issue is he's going to expect the counterparties -- first thing they have to do is are these agreements. china is not honoring many aspects of the wto. if you look at nafta, there are areas of nafta that are not being honored. in nafta there is a component that is supposed to be reviewed after time. i think it will be a combination of reviewing existing agreements , making sure countries are living up to what they would do and looking at changes that are important for american interests. sees lifet heart he in terms of winning and losing and he sees life in terms of on the other hand in negotiation. steven: i think the first part of it to the winning and losing is, he has to wind become president. he's focused on doing that. , this isof negotiation a man who has negotiate

that includes renegotiating nafta to get a much better deal for america. and we'll walk away if we don't get that kind of a deal. [ cheers and applause ] our country is going to start building and making things again. [ cheers and applause ] next comes the reform of our tax laws, regulations and energy rules. while hillary clinton plans a massive. and i mean massive tax increase, i have proposed the largest tax reduction of any candidate who has run for president this year, democrat or republican. [ cheers and applause ] middle-income americans and businesses will experience profound relief, and taxes will be greatly simplified for everyone. i mean everyone. [ cheers and applause ] america is one of the highest-taxed nations in the world. reducing taxes will cause new companies and new jobs to come roaring back into our country. believe me, it will happen, and it will happen fast. [ cheers and applause ] then we are going to deal with the issue of regulation, one of the greatest job-killers of them all. excessive regulation is costing our country as much a

the conditions to modernize and update nafta and potential lies this agreement even more. president obama: i agree. one of the values of the transpacific partnership is that we have learned from our experience. what has worked, what hasn't, where we can strengthen it in a number of the provisions inside of it transpacific partnership address some previous criticisms of nafta it will make what is already an extremely strong economic relationship between our two countries even stronger and we will make sure that the process of global integration is serving not just large companies, helping small companies and small businesses and workers so what i say consistently is that globalization is a fact. because of technology. because of an integrated global supply chain. because of changes in transportation and we are not going to be able to build a wall around that. what we can do is to shape how that process of global integration proceeds so that it is increasing opportunity for ordinary people so that it is creating better jobs so that we are strengthening protections for worker

if you look at nafta, there are specific areas of nafta that are not being honored.n nafta, there is a component that it was supposed to be of time.after a period i think it's going to be a combination of reviewing existing agreements, making sure the countries are living up to what they said they would do, and looking at where there are changes, they are important -- where there are changes that are important to american interests and workers. charlie: at heart, he sees life in terms of winning and losing. hand,s life, on the other as a negotiation. is that a fair appraisal? steven: that is. i think the first part, the winning and losing is. he has to become president -- he has to win to become president. he's very focused on doing that. in terms of negotiating, this is a man who has the -- has negotiated very successful agreements in his life. he knows that dealing with other countries around the world will be a negotiation. charlie: in a good negotiation, everybody knows the worst thing you could do is for the other person to walk away feeling like they have been

you know, nafta was signed then. you know, it's not featuring prominently now except in a negative sense. so undeniably -- i mean, bill clinton declared that the era of big government is over, and it seems now with hillary clinton that she's saying the era of big government is back. >> so that's -- the argument about trade i think it's important to note again that hillary clinton has been very clear for more than a decade about the need to renegotiate nafta. she's also been as clear as one can possibly be about the conditions for her to find a trade agreement acceptable. they are to create a american jobs, to raise wages, and to enhance our national security. she looked at tpp. she looked at it and she said, you know what? this doesn't meet my standards. so i think in terms of trade, again, i see consistency from hillary clinton, and i think that we will move forward to look at our trade agreements through the prism of those three issues, does it create jobs for americans? does it raise wages for americans? is it in

she supported nafta, and she supported china's entrance into the world trade organization. another one of her husband's colossal mistakes and disasters. she supported the job killing trade deal with south korea. she supported the transpacific partnership, which will not only destroy our manufacturing, but it will make america subject to the ruling of foreign governments and it's not going to happen. i pledge to never signed any trade agreement that hurts our or that diminishes our freedom or independence. we will never, ever sign that trade deals. -- bad trade deals. america first again. america first. instead, i will make individual deals with individual countries. no longer will we enter into these massive transactions with are countries that thousands of pages long and which no one from our country even reads or understands. we are going to enforce all trade violations against any country that cheats. this includes stopping china's outrageous theft of intellectual property. devastatingheir currency manipulation, they are the greatest that ever came about, they are the gr

remember, it was bill clinton who signed nafta, one of the worst economic deals ever made by our country. or frankly, any other country.

she supported nafta, and she supported china's entrance into the world trade organization. another one of her husband's colossal mistakes and disasters. she supported the job killing trade deal with south korea. she supported the transpacific

that that includes renegotiating nafta nafta to get a much better deal for america and will walk away if we don't get that kind of a deal. [cheering] our country is going to start building and making things again. [cheering] next comes the reform of our tax laws, regulations and energy rules. while hillary clinton plans a massive tax i mean increase, i have proposed the largest tax reduction of any candidate who has run for president this year, democrat or republican. [cheering] middle-income americans will experience profound relief, and taxes will be greatly simplified for everyone. i mean everyone. [cheering] america is one of the highest-taxed nations in the world. reducing taxes will cause new companies and new jobs to come roaring back into our country. believe me. it will happen and it will happen fast. [cheering] then we are going to deal with the issue of regulation, one of the greatest job killers of them all. excessive regulation is costing our country as much as $2 trillion a year, and we will end and it very quickly. [cheering] we are going to lift the restrictions on the

it because it's a horror show, it's going to kill all our jobs, it's going to be almost as bad as nafta, maybe worse which

jobs, it's going to be almost as bad as nafta, maybe worse which her husband signed, by the way, which destroyed this country, destroyed manufacturing in the united states. and i'll do something about it, that'll be so renegotiated. and by the way, yesterday for the first time she said she wants to renegotiate trade agreements. first time, yesterday. all because of me. she also saw me talking about tpp and currency manipulation and currency devaluation. and she heard it and she said wow, she can't win that subject in a debate. so, all of a sudden she goes and she goes against tpp, her vice president is one of the biggest proponents of tpp and now he's going against it. and bernie sanders was right, he was against it.

who was a dear friend of mine, president bill clinton, called me repeatedly ad asked me to vote for nafta. but there was something in my gut that said, if we vote for nafta, we're going to see jobs flee to mexico. so i voted against it. president was disappointed. we stayed friends. since then my views have become even harder and stronger. you know what, ladies and gentlemen? you don't need a, you don't need a phd in economics to know why companies want to take jobs out of america and move them to indonesia or mexico, or anywhere else. because the workers there get paid next to nothing! and what i told the business roundtable, the 200 biggest ceos in america, who were there to ask me why i was opposed to then tpa, and i said this. it may be that passing tpp will increase corporate profits. that is probably true. it may even be that tpp would increase, our gdp. even that may be true, although the the statistics and studies disagree. i said to them, as long as tpp reduces the wages and working conditions of american workers i will oppose it. i want to say one other thing, ladies and gentlem

but when you take a look at what happened after nafta, nafta took away the tariffs, what little we hadn the united states and those of the mexican government and country. and they did it over a period of years as i recall. but what they did immediately after nafta was they put up border adjustment tax of a value added tax. that tax was in the range of 16% to 18%. it was placed on all goods coming in to the country and it was rebated to manufacturers in china shipping the products into the united states. so what you had was nafta negotiated away tariffs and put in the same things back in place with the border adjustable value added taxes. >> your industry -- >> how big of a screw-up is that? >> steel is one of the hardest hit, your industry. obama administration taken steps to try to make it tougher, costlier for the imports of china. i notice that the auto manufacturers and other steel users weren't so happy about that. so i guess, you know, that's the problem with trade is winners and losers. >> well, the problem with trade is not with winners and losers. the problem is trade is trade

i know what nafta was all about. i know how a that agreement can impact workers because i am a worker who has been affected in that manner, but i also heard what the saunders amendment says, and it says that we needed a platform in order to make things transparent. it also said that we needed a platform that would make people .ccountable it also says that we are fighting for things to be there to american workers and to make sure that jobs in america were not going to be taken away from here. we have an obligation to make sure that what we stand on is unified and inclusive. saundersead what lee proposed, you see that it is all there. we're talking about what we need in order to make us strong, not what we stand against, because it is clear what we stand against. we have been there. i worked at a textile plant for all those years not to say that we don't have a voice. we have a voice. we know what credibility and accountability is about. i stand in support of the saunders amendment. [applause] >> two and a half minute

bill clinton helped to push nafta through and hillary was a free-trader, too. and backed the transpacific partnership. >> tpp sets the gold standard in trade agreements to open free transparent and trade. >> now in debates, she opposeded the tpp. >> i did say i hoped it the be the gold standard and it was finally negotiated last week. and it did not meet my standard. >> and in the keystone pipeline, environmentalism versus jobs she was accused of flip flopping. >> i never toom took a position on keystone until i took a position of keystone. >> it so manies the third wave of politics of bill clinton were dead in the water with. indeed many of the bill clinton top achievementes were liabilities and political baggage that hillary had to renounce or explain away. >> secretary clinton at that time had a different position on welfare reform and worked hard to roundup votes for the passage. >> hillary clinton navigated the obstacle course of the primary season and ready to be crowned head of her party in philadelphia. but there are lingering anies to those on the the

i was distressed he goes back and misprepresents nafta.gotiated from the main deal negotiated by predecessor george bush. bernie sanders did that, too. they try to lay things on nafta. >> hillary clinton did do a reversal. >> she did. because berny and trump have convinced everybody that nafta is responsible for all of your il ills. some things are good for everybody and some aren't. but trump is not telling the truth. neither is hillary clinton by the way. >> to be fair, who signs it owns it. >> speaking of telling the truth, we thought he would make a comment on loretta lynch in terms of the meeting with with bill clinton as to whether it was a social meeting and golf and grandchildren. and was her answer enough. >> it was a social meeting but it was ridiculous. johnathon had to push her. she had to be careful with the words of recusal. but i think what she is politicaling all along. there is no way a political appointee will make the decision. >> she expects to agree. >> she would accept. whether she acts or not. >> she expects to accep

to this country in terms of trade in terms of economics. >> stahl: what do you think about nafta? >> pence: you're absolutely right. i've supported free trade throughout my career. but... >> stahl: okay. >> pence: ...the truth of the matter is nafta has provisions in that law that call for it to be reviewed, that have never been... never been initiated. what-what i hear donald trump saying is let's-let's look at these trade agreements and reconsider them and renegotiate them. and... >> stahl: and you're okay with that? >> pence: and with regard to other trade agreements, we've talked about this. i really do believe when the american people elect one of the best negotiators in the world as president of the united states, we would do well... >> trump: we're gonna bring back jobs. >> pence: ...to negotiate individually with countries. >> trump: we're gonna bring back our jobs, we're gonna bring back our wealth, we're gonna take care of our people. very simple. >> stahl: okay. more issues. waterboarding. mr. trump wants to bring back waterboarding, and "a hell of a lot more." are you

he signed nafta. nafta is one of the primary contributors to the loss of jobs, and it is something that has been the hallmark of mr. trump's campaign. we will be talking about that, as well, a lot in this campaign, and hillary clinton's embrace of that trade position. as far as some of the other issues, they relate more to miss his clinton being an enabler. >> do you believe russia is behind some of these leaks of the dnc e-mails? does it concern you? obviously, we don't know who is behind the leaks. the leaks of this week put the dnc at risk, but the potential on missesacking clinton's server in her home created a greater risk than what the dnc leaked it. it reinforces again the case that has been made about how justice wasn't done with the investigation. you can be sure that if they were able to hack the dnc, the clinton's server was hacked, and those state secrets are sitting somewhere around the world. >> [indiscernible] >> via taken precautions to protect our servers. >> i will also say to the ot