>> no. >> doesn't he deserve credit for that, it is better than nafta. >> it is better than nafta. >> never said i opposed fracking. >> use it on tape. >> show the tape. put on the website. >> i will put it on. >> will there be any place for a fossil fuel including coal and

it's better than in ca, it's better than nafta. >> it is better than nafta. i never said i oppose fracking. >> you set it on tape. >> show the tape, put it on the website. >> outputted on. >> would there be any place for fossil fuels, including coal and fracking in a biden administration? >> no. we would work it out. we would make sure it's eliminated. i guarantee we are going to end fossil fuel. no more -- no new fracking. i would gradually move away from fracking. >> and i think it's critically important on day one that we end any fossil fuel leases on public land. >> what about stopping fracking? [indiscernible]. >> there's no question i'm in favor of banning fracking. >> i have one final question. >> would you closed on the oil -- >> i would transition from the oil industry, yes. i will transition. >> in terms of business that's the biggest statement. >> basically what he's saying is he is destroying the oil industry. you were a member that, texas? will you remember that, pennsylvania, oklahoma? [scattered applause] >> now, to be fair, maybe biden is not

>> no. >> doesn't he deserve credit for that, it is better than nafta. >> it is better than nafta. >>ever said i opposed fracking. >> use it on tape. >> show the tape. put on the website. >> i will put it on. >> will there be any place for a fossil fuel including coal and fracking in the biden administration? >> so the lancing really will continue in a moment. i want to jump out of the video being played for supporters who have gathered there in ingram county as the president continues his rally. john roberts talking about the energy and enthusiasm and the fact it is chilly in michigan today. the folks have been waiting for hours. we have seen that repeated almost every stop. and we will probably see that in wisconsin a bit later. looking out the early voting members and talking to karl rove about this a short time ago. all the political analyst turning to figure out what signs are in there and what data were not told us? as of today, you have close to 70 million americans who cast generally vote. as of today, there are 45 million of those in the mail and 22 million americans who vote

ca is better than nafta. mr. biden: it is better than nafta.id i oppose fracking. >> you said it on tape. mr. biden: show the tape. >> would there be any place for fossil fuels, including coal and fracking, in a biden administration? makeiden: no, we would sure it is eliminated. i guarantee you we are going to end fossil fuel. no fracking. we move away from fracking. >> i think it is critically important on day one that we end any fossil fuel leases on public land. >> what about fracking and the pipeline? mr. biden: no pipeline, exactly. >> they want the same thing i want, we are going to phase out fossil fuels. sen. harris: there is no question i am in favor of banning fracking. pres. trump: would you close down the oil industry? mr. biden: i would transition from the oil industry, yes. pres. trump: in terms of businesses -- he is going to destroy the oil industry. will you remember that, texas, pennsylvania, oklahoma? [applause] [cheers] >> four more years! four more years! pres. trump: so you never heard me say that, that i can tell you. isn

outsourced or industries and in support of every horrible terrible, ridiculous he was a cheerleader for nafta which was the worst trade deal ever made. nobody thought i could get that done. they are happy, sort of. he enthusiastically voted for china's entry into the world trade organization. it was a flat line for years and years. and then a bump. thank you very much joe, i appreciate it. joe and others, and you know that china is considered a third world country and for purposes of that he's considered and that's a horrible horrible world trade organization. that is such an unfair deal. all of a sudden we are winning cases. seven and a half billion. seven and a half billion they are not too happy about. but think of it, they are considered a developing nation and i said we are a developing nation, too. they are developing, we are developing, nobody ever says anything. well sir, they are considered to a developing nation whereas the united states are considered develops. having a big dispute, world trade. they have more power within the realm that then we did. let me ask you a question. numb

democrats for decades used to complain about nafta and talk about how bad it was.ut their party and joe biden never lifted a finger to fix what was broken about nafta but the man who wrote the art of the deal got working americans a better deal. nafta is gone and the usmca is here to stay and it is a huge win for ohio in ohio workers. energy, joecomes to biden and the radical left want to crush american energy under a $2 trillion green new deal that would literally raise the cost of electricity for every home at every business in this state. and worse still, joe biden and kamala harris want to abolish fracking.ls and ban if anybody doubted it, last night at the debate at the tail end, did you see it? industry said the oil pollutes and has to be replaced. it was what the president calls a big statement. i have to tell you, the truth of the matter is america's strength comes in part from our vast natural resources and other president donald trump, we are going to continue to develop all of the resources of this land and drive a boundless american future. [applause] y

he was a cheerleader for nafta, which was a disaster for your state.thusiastically voted for china's entry into the world trade organization. decimating your manufacturing and enriching china. it's what made china. he voted for it. pennsylvania lost almost 50% of its manufacturing jobs after biden. it wasn't only him but it was the thinking. that's what the thinking. decade after decade. vote after vote. joe biden, sleepy joe has betrayed pennsylvania. how the hell can you vote for him? how can you vote for this guy? congressman, how do you vote for this guy? look, he almost got through the debate. i wouldn't say he was winston churchill but it was okay. then we got him on the last question. i said do you mean you are against oil? yes, i weeded it out. i said pennsylvania, texas, are you watching? you have no choice, okay? if you stop fracking, if you stop fracking, which he is against, you remember he said i'm against fracking. i will ban fracking. he did this for over a year. we only have about 100 clips. we'll play some of them for you in a second.

please roll the tape. >> my problem is i voted for nafta. i'm supporting nafta because i think it is a positive thing to do, and i do not pretend to be an expert on international trade matters. >> trade agreements like nafta -- >> all right, that's president trump and he was running some video now, so president trump in michigan. his first of three rallies held today during this deadly pandemic. president trump will also hold rallies in wisconsin and nebraska this evening, all three of these states the president won in 2016. he's hoping to hold onto this election. cnn's fact checker daniel gayle joins us now. daniel, a lot of facts that are not facts. i know one of your favorites, this michigan man of the year which never happened, and yet he constantly claims happened. >> reporter: yeah, we have no -- there is no evidence that that is even a real award, jake. but any time he goes to michigan, he claims he was one named michigan man of the year. that did not happen. he claimed obama had declared there would never be manufacturing jobs create

nafta, out here in the heartland.5 years after nafta was signed into law, we literally saw -- you have to almost check this because it doesn't even sound right -- but 60,000 factories closed in the united states, and many of those jobs went south of the border to mexico or far overseas. democrats for years, like joe biden, loved to complain about nafta, but joe biden never lifted a finger to reform it or fix what was wrong with it. after michigan voted for the man deal,"te "the art of the michigan and america got a way better deal. nafta is gone and the usmca is here to stay. i don't know if you knew about this. under nafta, it might have been unintentional. i don't know. i was not around back then. there were these perverse incentives to move auto parts out of the country. be made in north america, and 40% of the parts have to be made by workers who make the average hourly wage of workers and the united states of america. we have taken the incentive away to move jobs out of the united states. workers and ar win for w

nafta is gone and the usmca is here to stay.] i mean, the truth is the usmca -- i don't know if you knew about this. i don't know if you knew about this. under nafta, it might have been unintentional. i don't even know. i was not around back then. there were these perverse incentives to move manufacturing out of the country. all auto parts and duty-free cars have to be made in north america, and 40% of the parts have to be made by workers who make the average hourly wage of workers in the united states of america. we have taken the incentive away to move jobs out of the united states. it is a win for workers and a -- workers in michigan and a win for workers all across america. [applause] it is. >> "four more years!" withpres. pence: i'm her. >> "four more years!" pence: i'm not surprised a woman with the veteran sweatshirt was cheering for the usmca. it is a win for autoworkers, and you know it. you all in michigan deserve to know that kamala harris was one of only 10 senators to vote against the usmca. she and i had a little b

pro nafta. it was only labor unions who were opposed to it. here you have ross perot, probably more right center than left center, deeply opposed to it for the reason he said. i think the outsourcing of jobs, more than anything else, is what parole was focused on in the mid 90s. >> carolyn barta, in 1995, ross perot started to organize or became the reform party. can you tell us a little bit about that effort and how the reform party took shape? >> well, the people who worked on the pro-campaign in 92 wanted to remain involved. and for a while, they were very active in shadowing the congressman and sending letters and so forth. so reform party then was organized to try to create a vehicle that would be a stable political influence. a third party. then there was in the convention of 1996, perot and dick lam, who had been ... perot remarks to lead to take it. that's probably a high point for the reform party. after that came jesse ventura. he was elected governor of minnesota in 98, i believe, and

he got us with the nafta agreement and we tore that nafta agreement apart and take a chapter home and come back and discuss it. some day people should read that one day. can you see anybody around at all in the future that would be anybody like him? thank you. >> thanks very much. is there anyone in the wings? >> i think they have to come out of the military. it used to be to be president, you had a military background. somebody out of an admiral, or a general will come in and run a third-party movement. but i don't see anybody out there that's ready to put skin in the game that is taken seriously. you've got to have i think the money to really do a third-party. as previously mentioned, it's hard to get into the debates the way the system is set up today. but america always produces unusual people at key moments and i'm sure there will be sometime in the future a serious third-party candidate. >> americans seem to have something with a flirtation as business people as presidents. ross perot, there was talk about herman cain earlier this year, mayor bloomberg was mentioned as a busines

[cheering and applause] the same goes for nafta. i mean, you all remember nafta.e 25 years after nafta was signed, we literally saw factories across the heartland shuttered by the thousands and jobs moved south of the border and moved overseas. now democrats like joe biden love to complain about nafta, all those years, remember? but they never lifted a finger to do anything about it. but when the man who wrote "the art of the deal" stepped into the oval office, america got a way better deal. nafta is gone. and the usmca is here. it is a win for south carolina and america. [cheers and applause] now you all deserve to know that joe biden's running mate, kamala harris -- [crowd booing] i had a debate with her a couple of weeks ago in salt lake city. [cheers and applause] thank you. thank you. i mean, i tried to point out in that debate that she was one of only 10 senators to vote against the usmca. she said it didn't go far enough on climate change. i mean, the usmca leveled the playing field for manufacturing in this country, opened up markets for our agriculture to

nafta became popular with both republicans and democrats. bill clinton, but also george herbert walker bush. it was only labor unions who were opposed to it. here you have ross perot probably more right center than left center. he was deeply opposed to it for the reason you said. i think the outsourcing of jobs more than anything else is what perot was focused on in the mid 90s. >> carolyn barta, in 1995 ross perot started to organize the -- what became the reform party. can you tell us a little bit about that effort and have the reform party took shape? >> well the people who had worked on the pearl campaign in 92 wanted to remain involved, and for a while, they were even very active as shadowing their congressman and sending letters and so forth. so the reform party then was organized to try to create a vehicle that would be a stable political influence, a third party. in the convention of 1996, perot and dick lamb, was the governor of colorado, indicated an interest to run on the reform party ticket. burrow then reemerged to lead the tick

democratsse years, always love to complain about nafta.ut joe biden and the democrats never lifted a finger to fix what was wrong with it. but when the man who wrote the art of the deal, got in the white house, nevada and america got a way better deal. nafta is gone and the usmca is here to stay. [cheers] it is a huge win for nevada. it is a huge win for america. men and women, you all deserve to know. joe biden's running mate kamala harris was one of only 10 senators who voted against the usmca. it is no surprise that she was rated as the most liberal member of the united states senate a year ago. usmcated against the because she said it did not go far enough in climate change. she put her agenda ahead of nevada workers. trade, iomes to promise you, president donald trump will always put nevada and america first. [cheers and applause] and on energy, the contrast continues. joe biden and kamala harris said over the last year repeatedly that they want to ban fracking and abolish fossil fuels. said in the biden presidential debate last week,

they said couldn't we keep nafta? i said no. we want to. we demand it. okay, that's okay we put 25% tariff on every car you send in. like i said, wouldn't we like to see the um sca? no, i said if you want to keep it you can bet i will tariff the

you know, closer to home, you all remember nafta, right? onere i come from we the 25 years from when nafta was signed into law, we saw thousands of factories shattered and jobs move south of the border. four years ago after we won the election, i went back to indiana and heard that a company that had been in indiana for 75 years was shot in their doors and -- was shutting their doors and moving south. democrats like joe biden likes to spend a lot of time complaining about nafta, saying how bad it was, they never lifted a finger to do anything about it. but when the man who wrote the art of the deal got to the oval office, north carolina and america got a way better deal. nafta is gone, and the usmca is a huge win for north carolina and america. i mean, there are estimates that we will sell another 2 billion more in -- $2 billion more in agricultural goods alone to met -- to mexico and canada. and not just joe biden sen. warren: record --'s record of doing nothing, but you should know something about his running mate. i had a little debate w

wrong great and almost all postering were to republicans were adamantly pro free trade in favor of nafta in favor of things like the true pacific partnership in terms of protections gratian ronald reagan and george bush and george bush and john to keep supporting the past illegality for the 11000000 people. we're here legally. roots and are now working and living in america trumps a nativist wants deport everyone and stop every form of immigration. see trump is a is america 1st isolationism is a radical departure from the crowd globalism of the republican party under white eisenhower and reagan and nixon and ford so yeah don trump has dramatically changed the republican party which is why millions of republicans like me have left it ok well i don't see the republican party really fighting the charge for donald trump here i mean when you look at foreign policy they've turned against them almost every single way here and i give them a go back to ted here you know dick responding to what chris said most american presidents the vast majority of american presidents have been protection as tha

president biden when he was in office and trump has housing achievement to tout he did renegotiate nafta the north american free trade agreement it was enormously welcomed by trade unions in this country president obama campaigned on renegotiating nafta but he didn't all he did was lump everything into the trans-pacific partnership another trade deal which the union said would would continue the outsourcing that has gone on to other countries to cheaper labor and in other countries so he does have that he also has biden's own record generally biden seen as someone who supports their liberal wall street economics he was known you know the senator from delaware obviously by the credit card industry is based he was known as the senator from m. b.n.a. a credit card company so really affirm the other side of the credit card companies versus those who have to max out their credit cards so he has all this and that suspicion after 8 years of obama that the democrats simply don't get it trump is on their side but then he also has trunks own record trump hasn't stopped the outsourcing he hasn't st

for years, after nafta was signed, democrats loved to complain about it.th is, in the heartland where i grew up, we literally saw thousands of factories close in the wake of nafta. and those jobs shipped south of the border and overseas. the truth is, people like joe complained about it for years, but never lifted a finger to make any changes. but when the man who wrote "the art of the deal" got to the white house, man did we get a way better deal. nafta is gone and the usmca is here to stay. and it is a win for arizona and a win for america. [applause] you all deserve to know that joe biden's running mate -- kamala harris, who last year was the most liberal in the u.s. senate -- you deserve to know that she was only one of 10 senators, right? she was only one of 10 who voted against the usmca, even though it was a huge win for arizona and for our country. kamala harris said it did not go far enough on climate change. kamala harris put her environmental agenda ahead of arizona jobs and ahead of arrows on a workers. when it comes to trade, i will make you a

you understand if you are a blue-collar worker, that joe biden voted for nafta in 1994, he voted for china and the wto. memory, institutional from you and your family, of how we lost over 70,000 factories and 5 million jobs to joe biden's nafta and his courtship of china. and at the president has, as you know, been the toughest president ever to stand up to china. and we have the banking of the rank-and-file, as we did in 2016, but there are other things going on with that. go ahead. >> you said he has been tough on china, but i spoke to larry kudlow yesterday, who did not make any kind of statement about the coming tariffs on china over the pandemic. if he is so tough, why have it further tariffs been announced due to the pandemic? let you and i will larry have your conversations. but what i know about donald tariffs onat we have over $325 billion worth of chinese goods. we have put sanctions on china for human rights abuses. we took away all favorable treatment for hong kong after the chinese communist party brutally crushed dissent. we have run freedom on navigation patrols in the

you know that biden was responsible for voting for nafta. he voted for china getting into the world trade organization. he has been very sympathetic to china. she does not think they will eat our lunch. will he rolack the china tariff? will he rollback the steel a aluminum tariffs? if he does any of that, forget about manufacturing in this country. they lost manufacting jobs under their watch. upof january 2020, we had 500,000. election have consequences, and i do believe, and this is what i did four years before i got here, i was a forecaster. biden'sieve that joe dark winter is ahead -- quite dark winter, you use the term great depression. can you name one economist to nameelf, your phd, can you anyone else using that term great pression with any kind of seriousness about the biden economic plan? christ let me turn that around. when i was the president's top economic advisor and i said we growth wayto have above estimates and i predicted the day after the electction 25,000 on the doubt, i was correct. ?h was paul krugn doing he was writing

nafta,a cheerleader for worst trade deal ever made., would have been worse than nafta but i stopped it. and you know what else i stopped? the paris environmental accord. [applause] macronike prime minister a lot, but i said how's it going over there? how is the accord doing? they're not doing too good. i saved you trillions of dollars. nobody else would have done it. i said it was a disaster. they basically wanted to take our wealth. you can't use what's underground. we have it and other countries don't. it was really a terrible thing. and know what's funny? i got out, i terminated it. and people got it. they praised it. they thought it was fantastic, except for some of those guys. they thought it was fantastic. half of all manufacturing jobs in michigan were lost after biden backed nafta and the china disasters, right? world trade. that's when china became strong, one of the great ripoffs of all-time. biden should be asking michigan workers for your votes. i mean, he's asking you for your votes. you know he should be asking? he should

remember, steph, they sold nafta to us with the same kind of rhetoric.entry into the world trade organization with the same kind of rhetoric and all we got from that is 70,000 factories closed, over 5 million manufacturing jobs lost. i'm just telling you, tpp sounded good, but implementationwise, it would have killed the american auto industry full stop. >> and, of course, usmca, which has done a lot of positive things, didn't exactly tear up nafta. it was really nafta 2.0. i do want to talk about another economic statistic, the markets. we're seeing the markets drop again today despite this gdp number. what do you think of that? we're hearing more and more from different economists, different analyst s that are saying unles we have a federal, national plan to take on the coronavirus, we can't have a real economic recovery. >> in my former life, i did a lot on cnbc as a market analyst and would predict stock market movements on broad and macro things. the stock market traditionally is an expectation of a future stream of profits, right? and that's based

i mentioned nafta briefly, joe biden's support for nafta is something people are talking about, the president will mention that in his report tonight. at 5:00 i will be here. a little brisk, not a bad night for this time of year. back to you. eric: we will have full coverage later today. arthel: team biden making a hard push to mobilize support is telling them in a memo that the race is a lot closer than most people thing, the former vice president is not on the road today but he did address one of his hallmark campaign promises at an event in michigan yesterday. >> no one who make less than $400 a year will pay it anymore. big corporations and the very wealthy will pay their fair share for a change. arthel: mark meredith is in wilmington with more. >> reporter: joe biden is not holding a public campaign event today, but the last several days in key battleground states, florida, pennsylvania and michigan. talking about the former vice president outside detroit last night telling supporters he is ready to energize american manufacturing specifically the auto industry. >> we will build a networ

trump has continued that messaging here in 2020, talking about the usmca as a replacement for nafta.certainly taking credit for that, trying to message to voters in places like macomb county, autoworkers, that it will be a better deal for them than nafta was. to biden has come and talked the manufacturing folks, talking about his policies being american-made, buy american, a populist message in some way. david w.: let me ask one last question. i was in high school when george wallace won the primary in michigan. why is michigan so unpredictable when it comes to the elections? david d.: because it's a competitive state. 16,ore trump won in 20 democratic candidates have carried the state for several election cycles -- had carried the state for several election cycles. that masks some underlying competitiveness here in michigan between the major parties. republicans have had success in statewide elections for governor, for secretary of state, attorney general, and the like. it's a competitive state, through and through, and it's going to be competitive here in 2020. david w.: your gover

. >> i'm supporting nafta because i think it is a positive thing to do. do not pretend to be an, expert on international trade matters. rising china is a positive development. it is in our self-interest that china continue to prosper. we want to see china rise. china is a great nation and we should hope for their continued expansion. allowing china into the world trade organization which you supported, extending most-favored nation status to china, which you supported, those steps allowed china to take advantage of the united states by using our own open trade deals against us. >> no. >> you think in retrospect you were naive about china? >> no. elizabeth: okay, governor, you can hear, we've watched this real and other reels like this, you hear people audibly booing, you know when you had joe biden talking about nafta, he was talking about the old nafta, that the president has since gotten revision of. governor, when you see what the president is doing, it seems to be working, getting voters to understand what he says the issues are. what do you say, gove

i ended the nafta nightmare and replaced it with a brand new u.s.m.c. a just kicked in just get you know how you know it's good because mexico and canada are so happy president obama had also campaigned on renegotiating nafta but instead he signed the us up to another international trade deal the trans-pacific partnership which unions felt would just multiply the jobs lost to other countries it's clear dr biden is aware of the suspicion among blue collar workers of his record both at obama's side as vice president and before nonetheless he continues to tout what he says was once a booming economy the truck was handed in 2017. care to the stronger economy from iraq and made like everything else he'd heard it he squandered. as senator biden long fought for the credit card companies of delaware that made up his donors against those forced to max out their debt and often advocated cutting health and pension benefits for the poor but now biden insists he's learned from the progressive wing of the party. you know who really built this country it wasn't wall street it was c.e.o.'s it was hard w

so that people can understand our experiment and the experience we had when it came down to nafta and working in manufacturing. >> host: and diamond, in the book you refer to yourself as the mouth of the south, and silk as inspector gadget. >> i talk a whole lot. if i don't like something i'm going to say something. silk is like the inspector gadget, going rereach it. investigate it, and that's what i love about here. me i'm going to talk about it and -- >> talk about my sister dime, sheaves like a delivererrer know. oh thank you deliver the message. know how to say it the with a it need toes to be said so people -- can regs it's in with people and people can hear the message. >> host: and here's what diamond writes in uprising the only thing that we had was the truth and that is what we spoke, the nasty, low down, dirty truth, let us be clear we're truth-tellers not robotic talking heads. don't have a problem with sticking the knife in you, twisting it and bringing you down with the truth, and silk then writes and when diamond starts cutting the lies with the truth, i'm the one who s

60000 factories were closed and jobs were shifted south of the border and overseas since 1995 when naftaiden did not lift a finger to reform nafta, president donald trump renegotiated our trading relationship with mexico and canada and the usmca is here to stay. it's a huge win for arizona in a huge win for america. [applause] finally, joe biden and the democratic party support abortion on demand. they support using taxpayer dollars to pay for abortion all the way up to the moment of birth. [crowd boos] i tell you, i cannot be more proud of the vice president to a president who stands without apology for the sanctity of human life. president donald trump is the most pro-life president in american history. [cheering and applause] when you look at their agenda, it is clear. joe biden democratic party had been overtaken by the radical left. joe biden would mean nothing more than a trojan horse for the extreme agenda of the radical left. joe biden says democracy is on the ballot on november 3. i think our economic recovery is on the ballot. i think law and order are on the ballot but i also

i ended the nafta nightmare and signed a brand new u.s.-mexico canada agreement into law everybody said that was going to be impossible. and it's just now kicking in, and i know it's good because the other two countries aren't so thrilled. but look they ripped us off for years and years with that crazy nafta look at empty buildings you had all over from new england to here all over the place what a horrible deal that was. usmca expected to create a minimum of 76,000 new automotive -- fixture, automobile jobs automotive jobs, you have so many of them and they're all coming and many of are coming out of here that includes 76,000 we think right here going to be in michigan and we actually think that's a low number could be much higher than that. [applause] and includes a lot of wage protections too. i took the toughest ever action to stand up to china defending michigan workers against china's plunder and theft you know what i mean if biden wins, china will own america. he's going to own it, first of all. first of all they're paying him a for

. >> i'm supporting nafta because i think it is a positive thing to do and i do not pretend to be anternational trade matters. >> when you ran for president and when barack obama ran for president you both said you would renegotiate nafta. you didn't. >> trade agreements like nafta permanent trade relations in china which forced american workers to compete against people making pennies an hour has resulted in the loss of 160,000 jobs. >> the president is absolutely right when he says that china has been cheating for 25 years and that bill clinton didn't do enough about it, george w. bush didn't do enough about it. barack obama didn't do enough about it. >> how exactly are you going to negotiate that? what magic wand do you have? >> rising china is incredibly positive development for not only china but the united states and the rest of the world. elizabeth: it is also used in the democrats words like barack obama's word, bernie sanders's words and media's words. so that is pretty powerful stuff, tim. final word? >> that is a new wrinkle the president wanted to add to the rallies showi

-- nafta, right?years after nafta was signed, we saw entire communities shuttered. 60,000 factories were closed and many of those jobs were moved south of the border and overseas. biden and the democrats always talked a lot about what was wrong with nafta, but they never did a thing to change it. but the man who wrote "the art of the deal," he got america a better deal. usmca isgone and the here to stay. [cheers and applause] vice pres. pence: and when it comes to energy, joe biden and the radical left wants to crush american energy. and american jobs under a true trillion dollar version -- to trillion dollar version -- $2 trillion version of the green new deal. the president at the last debate had to remind joe biden that he supported the green new deal, and he might just remind him again tonight. [cheers and applause] i mean, i pence: mean, the green new deal, on their campaign website is essentially the same as aoc's we new deal. -- green new deal. that's according to usa today. the green new deal