on nominations for vice president, thefirst nomination was for commissioner nageswaran . on the nomination for commissionernageswaran to become vice president, commissioner wright . [roll call vote] so moved commissioners, that motion passes 4 to 3 with commissioners black and so voting against. there is no reason to call the second question unless you all ... okay. congratulations commissioner nageswaran for representing the historic preservation commission in thecapacity of vice president . commissioners, we have moved on to consideration of items proposed for continuance at time of issuance and to date there are no items proposed for continuance. under your regular calendar item 5 case 2021 06308 def for the truck andnarrow , 19th avenue eastern recreation grove landmarkdesignation . are you prepared to make your presentation? >> i am although i believe that supervisor mar's agent would like to join the meeting and may make comments first but i will defer toher . >> clerk: idon't know whether z she sent an invitation . >> i see her. >> happy to make remarks, that's oka

i am not sure if that answered commissioner nageswaran's question? i think it was more specific to related to preservation issues. how can this be challenged? how can our city preservation policies be clear about how to protect historic resources can be in concert with what we are mandated by state law? >> i did understand what she said about the objective measures that were in the packet and how that was helping with preservation. yes, i mean i still, you know, would like to understand better how -- i don't know if heticiann is the right word -- petition is the right word. how we interact with the state for specific issues in the city different than other cities for what we are dealing with, but maybe the city attorney can answer that. >> high, commissioner. commission hi,commissioners. do you want to address the general issue on this question of preservation and i can tackle rent control issue? >> sure. this is victoria wong from the city attorney's office. there is a general process whereby the city can lobby to the state for policy changes that i

commissioner nageswaran. >> i had sort every layed these comments or questions earlier.nk this project has such a great quality to it. as commissioner foley said, it has intriguing visuals to it. at first when i saw the slats, you know, i don't think i have seen anything like that in the city. it is an intriguing thing. the more i look at the renderings which really helped me to kind of see the correlation between the slatting and the industrial materials like brick and wood siding type things, it really goes to that. i can see where they put it on this side over the historic element to blend with it. i did want to ask if there was any thought for rather than having a full repetition of the blading to intermediated or sections or solid or flat paneling or glazing, if that was considered. the colors of the selected finishes. i really like the terra-cotta color. i wondered if that could read across to the stanford addition at the rear of the knowledge. where you have white and gray terra-cotta panels. i saw that on the drawing, metal panels. i want to understand whether so

on nominations for vice president, thefirst nomination was for commissioner nageswaran .issioner wright . [roll call vote] so moved commissioners, that motion passes 4 to 3 with commissioners black and so voting against. there is no reason to call the second question unless you all ... okay. congratulations commissioner nageswaran for representing the historic preservation commission in thecapacity of vice president . commissioners, we have moved on to consideration of items proposed for continuance at time of issuance and to date there are no items proposed for continuance. under your regular calendar item 5 case 2021 06308 def for the truck andnarrow , 19th avenue eastern recreation grove landmarkdesignation . are you prepared to make your presentation? >> i am although i believe that supervisor mar's agent would like to join the meeting and may make comments first but i will defer toher . >> clerk: idon't know whether z she sent an invitation . >> i see her. >> happy to make remarks, that's okay. >> i'll be very brief. thank you for considering recommendation to the tr

i am not sure if that answered commissioner nageswaran's question?o preservation issues. how can this be challenged? how can our city preservation policies be clear about how to protect historic resources can be in concert with what we are mandated by state law? >> i did understand what she said about the objective measures that were in the packet and how that was helping with preservation. yes, i mean i still, you know, would like to understand better how -- i don't know if heticiann is the right word -- petition is the right word. how we interact with the state for specific issues in the city different than other cities for what we are dealing with, but maybe the city attorney can answer that. >> high, commissioner. commission hi,commissioners. do you want to address the general issue on this question of preservation and i can tackle rent control issue? >> sure. this is victoria wong from the city attorney's office. there is a general process whereby the city can lobby to the state for policy changes that it desires. there is a centralized process

. >> nageswaran. >> yes. >> commissioner black. >> yes. >> commissioner foley. >> why he. >> commissioner johns. >> yes. >> and commissioner so. >> yes. >> so moved that motion passes unanimously 6-0. that concludes your brief hearing today. enjoy the rest of your afternoon. >> welcome back. >> thank you. >> good-bye everybody. >> thank you. >> good morning, everyone. the meeting will come to order. welcome to the thursday, september 9, meeting of neighborhood services. i am the chair supervisor mar and i am joined by supervisor stefani and haney. supervisor mandelman will join us today. i want to thank the committee clerk and sfgovtv for staffing this meeting. do you have any announcements? >> thank you, mr. chair. minutes will reflect committee members participated through video conference as if they were present in the commit de room. the board recognizes public access is essential and invites participation. public comment is available for each item on the agenda. cable channel 26, 78 or 99. sfgovtv.org or streaming the call in number on the screen at this time. each speaker is allowed

. >> commissioner nageswaran. >> here. >> commissioner so. >> here. >> commissioner wright. >> commissioner wright. i can see you are here, but i cannot hear you. >> here. >> can you hear me? >> yes. >> very good. first is general public comment. at this time, members of the public may address the commission on items within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. with respect to agenda items your opportunity is afforded when the item is reached. each member may address the commission for up to three minutes. if you would like to submit comments on under general public comment press star 3. commission president matsuda, do you want to providely or two minutes? >> three minute is fine. >> when your line is unmuted begin speaking. >> linda chapman from rob hill. coming before you for the first time. usually i go to the planning commission to require when the sub stake has ever come before you. i was astonished when i read the thereport. those are usually not the ones that go deep into the strongest reasons why preservation should be done. it was astonishing, you know. i knew it was