there were others he said, who would have had more reason to want nagle dead. >> first officer nagle was in the process of writing an aggrievance concerning matters the a the unit. >> reporter: that complaints was never made public a month after the murder three congressional officers were arrested for laundering drug money. the theory that pruitt was framed doesn't hold up. on april 28th as prison officials drove pruitt the 42 miles to the death chamber where he was scheduled to be executed. a court was having second thoughts. >> how close did you get to the death chamber. >> i was as far as here. >> hours before he was scheduled to die, a stay of execution. getting the legal team 30 days to initiate d.n.a. testing. a previous analysis found the sharp end of the victim's d.n.a. a handle has never been tested. >> the principle hope is that there are epithelial cells. those cells have not been too degraded to allow a genetic programme to be constructions. >> if someone else comes in if they are found, they could open the investigation. >> how convinced are you of pruitt's guilt? >> i'

was going to be easy didn't listen to john nagle. even then, he wasn't sure the u.s. was prepared for it. with no end in sight to the fight against i.s.i.l nagle foresite is proving prophetic. he's an author and co-wrote the army and marine counterinsurgent field manual. he understand counterinsurgency. he joins me from philadelphia. john reports say the u.s. is sending more military trainers, 450, aol jamie mcintire says many will be security for the advisors they are considering opening up a base in anbar province. but on monday president obama indicated the u.s. had no particularly strategy for fighting i.s.i.l. what do you think has changed in the last 24 hours? >> the president was incorrect. we have a strategy. it's actually the right strategy. the president has chosen not to resource that strategy. and the 450 advisors being sent to tq air base, where i spent 2003-2004 are laughably insufficient to do what the president has correctly said needs to be done, defeat and ultimately destroy i.s.i.l. the president at some point is going to have to jump into the pool

>> who was daniel nagle? >> two weeks before his murder, nagle spoke at the texas state capitol calling for prison reform. local papers quoted him saying someone will have to be killed before the texas department of criminal justice does anything about the shortage of staff in texas prisons. nagle would be dead 13 days later. inmate robert pro it was charged with his murder. his attorney hint his client was framed. there were others, he said who would have had more reason to want him dead. >> he was in the pros of writing a grievance concerning a variety of matters that were occurring at the unit. >> that complaint was never made public but one month after the murder, three correctional officers at the prison were arrested for laundering inmate's drug money. the state says the theory that pruitt was framed by rogue guards doesn't hold up. on april 28, as prison officials drove pruitt the 45 miles to the death chamber in huntsville where he was scheduled to are executed that evening a texas court was having se

nagl i think he referred to the drone war is one of the most successful parts of the war in terror. i'm curious how that is not creating more resentment? >> it is creating more resentment but drone strikes are far more precise than tank warfare is for which i have some experience than previous bombing campaigns have been so collateral damage is inherent in the use of violence. you are ours going to kill some people you don't mean to. on balance we have i believe destroyed al qaeda 1.0 and then grave damage to his successor organizations for the use of drones but i relist jim's water water -- wider point. we have not conducted information operations in order to minimize the effect of those accidental deaths and more broadly to attack the ideology of our enemy. >> i would say if you are looking purely at a military tactical standpoint that the germans have been generally successful but i do think i would have to disagree. if you look at on balance i would say that the resentment that's stoking especially in places like the northwest frontier and pakistan and in yemen in places like th

[laughter] but john nagl of u.s. army and of the naval academy from philadelphia and was the colleague of mine at the colleague -- naval academy only to the midshipmen it felt water. in testimony to his defect icn half-dozen midshipmen here but he went to west point then to oxford as a rhodes scholar and had the foresight to do phd work on the british experience and at that time counterinsurgency was of no particular urgency after teaching at west point to turn the thesis to the army record insurgency manual the book that general petraeus will get very closely. in iraq and afghanistan. i thought i would start to do this critique by saying that's it is going great for us in september 11 there is no more september 11. we have had 14 so with the scoreboard. >> not so much there is the great deal that we agree on and things we will clash on when he gets here but the effects of september 11 should have been prevented by the national security apparatus of the united states and there were a number of indications something w

and john nagl. you see the debate boiled down in a nutshell there. in your book night fights, you were worried back at the original invasion after 2001, behind a common cause, killing americans. we just heard from the brigade, are you worried that might happen again? >> there's a concern that could happen again, the iraqi deserter really spoke deeply to what i believe. america made a huge mistake of invading iraq in 2003. the invasion was unnecessary and poorly conducted. we managed to pull something like a draw. with reasonable outcome out of that war. but by withdrawing the american troops prematurely in 2011, we paved the way of an al qaeda-affiliate, isis, to that country. unless we put american troops back inside iraqi troops -- >> you're saying -- >> iraq can't win. >> you're saying 15,000, 20,000 troops. >> that's the number of american advisers that i would like to see inside iraqi units. they would have to be supported. that's what it will take to defeat isis on the ground. which the president has said is the american objective. >> what's th

president, i also ask unanimous consent that ryan nagle my state director, be granted floor privileges for the duration of today's session of the senate. the presiding officer: without objection. ms. heitkamp: thank you mr. president. today, as i have for a number of weeks i rise to speak about 11 north dakotans who did not come home from the vietnam war. each of these men gave his life for our country. before i begin speaking about the 198 north dakotans who died during vietnam i want to thank my great friend, bill anderson, of rutland, north dakota. bill is a marine, and he's a veteran of the vietnam war. bill grew up in rutland attended the university of north dakota and then started law school at the university of colorado. it was the late 1960's and young men with college degrees were being drafted so bill left law school and he enlisted in the marine corps and was trained to be an officer. in 1970, he arrived in vietnam and became the commander of the second platoon of delta company first battalion fifth marine regiment. bill's own written words about the impact of the vietnam wa

and john nagl, author of "knife fight. "thank you for joining us today.