we begin this evening from egypt with naguib sawins. he's a businessman, one of the wise men who negotiated with president mubarak and now to form a new political party. >> i'm really happy to see what happened in libya. i've known these regimes, i had to deal with some of them and i seem to -- they deserve a better life than that. the problem now is how to sale vantage this revolution and take it to -- we want to be like europe. we want to be, we want to have a real democracy. we do not want to have a religious state. we want a civilly run country with open mind and so on. we are quite religious all of us, it's a religious nature, it's very nice and very good we we don't want to be governed by the religion. >> charlie: also joining us this evening, richard engel chief foreign correspondent for cbs news covering the uprising including libya. >> there's a good sign of bringing more democracy and people power to the region because there has been a lot of abuses and corruption. but there's also a real potential negative side. and if unchec