vice president nakajo. >> vice-president nakajo: thank you president cleaveland. i am wondering if you can check in with a commission secretary as to what we do have on the agenda list, if we have any items. >> we do not have any. >> vice-president nakajo: okay, i think i will leave that. because our commissioner has got multiple suggestions on the agenda. i think that's just fine. at some point, down the road, do you think we could have a check in, mr president, and colleagues, on the communication 911 system? whereas about last year, it was a shortage or an issue of hiring and i want -- i'm curious to see how the component works with us. i did say in the remarks to chief gonzales' report, the recognition of dispatchers are so important to our work here in the city and county of san francisco into the fire department. i believe it to the discretion of you mr president and the chief as to when we can coordinate that. thank you mr president. >> president cleaveland: thank you mr vice president. any other comments from any of the commissioners? seeing none, we move

thank you. >> president cleaveland: vice president nakajo. >> vice president nakajo: thank you. to continue this discussion or presentation in terms of the retirement information. i appreciate this. we all appreciate it very much, chief. thank you very much, commissioner covington. as commissioner covington added up the years in terms of retirement, what we all pretty much understand and realize is the amount of years of experience that goes along with this. it's interesting that during the time -- and i appreciate chief when you narrate some history. in terms of your reference in terms to mayor lee and our hiring plan. because subsequently before that, commissioners, in the year '82-'87 when we didn't have a class during that five-year period, no class during that five-year period, we as a commission in the department can never go through that every again. we are paying the price of that in some ways. it's interesting in terms of statistics when i hear numbers like 190 members might be about 55 years old or over and such. what it tells me come parrive to the good -- comparative

vice president nakajo. >> vice president nakajo: thank you very much, president. thank you very much for your presentation. inspector juarez and inspector cato. first i want to say to you, chief decossio, in terms of response to this outreach team and in terms of the origin of it, which was the mission fires some years ago and the thought process that occurred for us, the department, to do outreach within the community. pretty much for me is an example what we can do for citizens. i appreciate both of you in terms of your presentation, because most people, not most people but i was former executive director of a senior center in japan town for 45 years and i know you recently went to that senior center and did that presentation and immediately they think i have a relationship with you and the department and the feedback about how much you affect those seniors is a great, great effect of education. i was telling the president earlier in our discussions that being from the senior community, sometimes the seniors of san francisco don't get the kind of visible recogni

vice president nakajo. >>.>> thank you very much presit cleaveland. chief cochrane i am the one who called in presentation. for us on the commission it's been my experience that as one ascends to a command level that very often the commissioners don't have the opportunity to dialogue or hear concepts and ideas. part of the reason why i wanted to have you present was first of all, welcome to our command level and i know that you have been part of that. >> thank you sir. >> as all of the officers carry a tremendous amount of experience within this department and part of that is as you ascend to your various responsibility areas administratively, an area of expertise thus the homeland security and homeland security for ourselves and this is how the commissioner responds in terms of questions or comment. it might take a few minutes mr. president for them but homeland security is an area that has grown tremendously in terms of responsibility. i for one want to hear all your responsibility areas because your responsibility areas are vast. terms like homelan

i attended briefly but then met with you, president cleaveland and vice president nakajo. helping present an award to the ray lim award to retired captain sandy tong. lots going on this week and proper acknowledgments being made. that concludes my report at this time. >> president cleaveland: thank you, chief. is there any public comment on the chief's report? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners. commissioner covington. newly appointed -- reappointed. >> commissioner covington: reapointed. just don't -- reappointed. just don't call me a retread. >> president cleaveland: we are lucky to have you. >> commissioner covington: thank you. i'm lucky to be here. thank you, chief for attending. and thank you for these retirements and separations figures. i've added up the red bars and it comes to 537 total people who have retired or been separated from the department since 2010. that's a pretty big number, even without including the 32 people who have put in the paperwork to retire very soon. so, that would bring the total to 569 people. and so, i just want to reit

thank you vice president nakajo for joining us to commemorate the -- years of the earthquake. we gave the hydrant a spray as we do every year to commemorate how it was functioning and saved a great part of that district in the city, 112 years ago. also attended a funeral that day for and i conic san franciscan, mr. leonard stephanelli. also i wanted to acknowledge the hard work that everyone did in our department to put on a mobile command unit tour. very impressive in lot a on the 18th where we had the command vehicles from the airport, the police department, fire department, the sheriff and then other neighboring agencies, we had participation of caloes as well. it was very well received and had a lot of people from the public. we had a recruitment booth set up. i saw a number of college students there handing out information about our department. that evening i evening i represe department at hotel heros, a big event in the hotel world. it is their academy awards if you will. i represented the department and provided an award to i believe it was the unsung hero award, but i

. >> vice-president nakajo: i also like your style, chief. it is the life that the commission needs. the energy as positive as i appreciate that. the humour as well, it is all packaged, it is all good. >> thank you. >> i wanted to ask you two questions. one is, when you do your session, with the commissioners be invited to in -- observed that particular section? can they be? >> absolutely. >> i'm not sure what material is taught or what kind of concepts are developed. leadership development should have a concentration. there's always an assumption that because you have a title, therefore you must be a leader. that ain't the way it works. it works with a lot of experience and a lot of know h how. and a lot of personality. from years ago when we were... things were so difficult and trying to position conflicts around -- among the neighbours -- the members, i attended a session like this similarly. and in these -- in those days we hired a consultant. but it was received very well. there was a place by which the membership had to die alone. i jus