thank you. >> president cleaveland: vice president nakajo. >> vice president nakajo: chief hayes-white evening. i want to get clarification. class 125, 126, 127 will all occur in the year of 2019? hayes-white owe >> chief hayes-white: through june of 2020. >> vice president nakajo: we've been doing two per year. those two might be projected for 2019 and 127 will be 2020? >> chief hayes-white: correct. >> vice president nakajo: how far would you think that projection would go. >> chief hayes-white: i would anticipate that we would similarly ask for two classes per fiscal year. we need tolled -- we need to do more analysis. there was accelerated hiring he would need to keep up with that pace. >> vice president nakajo: , part of that 2019-2020 is because we do two year projections? that's how we're going start to look at the classes that we're projecting? >> chief hayes-white: with mayor lee, we did a five-year plan. we will be open to projecting out even further. we began the hiring in 2012. it was a five years through 2017. we extended three years. two years would be in my mind, very mi

vice president nakajo. >> commissioner nakajo: thank you very much, president cleaveland.nk you very much, chief gonzales. i know that you're interchanging for the chief in terms of the chief, as well. i don't have any particular questions in terms of the chief's report. i have a couple of things in terms of your report, but in terms of the chief's report, it wasn't mentioned, but i understand there's a new chief in charge of emergency management services that was named, and i just want to be able to get a -- an occasion where this commission might be able to be introduced and be able to establish some communication and report with this new director. and it fails me, at this point, as to who that person is. and i knew it was in the paper, but -- >> i think it's mary ellen carroll. she worked with some of our chiefs on the rim fire. she actually went up to hetch hetchy. she's worked well with the fire department in the past. >> commissioner nakajo: okay. and this is mary ellen carroll -- is it the new director of emergency fire services? >> yes, she'll be in charge of the d

vice president nakajo. >> commissioner nakajo: thank you, mr. president. in terms of important's for our commission, i know that children or grandchildren are important, and today happens to be the birthday of my grandson. so when we look at the agenda, traditionally, if it's not too heavy, we will move to a timely motion of adjournment. so chief, i will make this short. i would make, at the time of agreement -- first of all, i wanted to congratulate you on your report. i always like your comprehensive report. i like the wow factor that you incorporated this evening. i know that you know that the commissioners are impressed with numbers, and those kind of numbers, when it denotes how many we responded to in e.m.s. and such, are very impressive. those are real, real numbers. i wanted to also let you know that in terms of the officer academy, and i agree with all of the commissioners, in terms of the importance, i believe, 'cause i witnessed through the years, certain segments of that. i think i brought up as a segment, perhaps not be able to be refined beca

vice president nakajo had a final question? >> commissioner nakajo: yes. chief hayes-white, i remember what i wanted to ask. i made mention in terms of promises kept, i'd be curious to know how long we've been doing the recruitment of station 49 and in terms of total numbers of successful graduations that came from 49. i would be interested in perhaps chief sato might be able to help with that as well or whatever research can be occurred. it just would probably be a pretty good healthy number. >> commissioner hayes-white: yes, we can definitely get that number for you. >> commissioner nakajo: yes. and i would think with the commission, not only the numbers supporting it, but we can do actuals. so thank you, mr. president. >>commissioner cleaveland: thank you, mr. vice president. chief, i did have a couple of questions. first off, i did want to congratulate the 124th class for that video. it was terrific, and i would urge every class to put together a similar video of their experiences. i think it really is a bonding experience, and it gives the families an

. >> vice president nakajo: thank you very much. cleaveland.evening chief gonzalez. >> i know commissioners made reference to your report. our report seems to get thicker by each commission meeting. which is good. >> all delegation. >> vice president nakajo: i understand that. as commissioner enjoyed reports and identification of all the command post that is sitting there as we get the reports from the various units. which is a lot. it shows you how much we're doing in this fire department. i do appreciate the photos. i have two questions. one in terms of -- i appreciate the video in terms of the jaws of identification again. >> jaws of life. >> vice president nakajo: which brought me to this question. are we the department into a different training technique when it comes to cars that are electrical versus the traditional -- >> electrical there's concern getting shocked. you have to be cognizant of that. the higher -- some of the main philosophy, whatever kind of car it is, you will security scar first. you would need to block it and don't let

>> commissioner nakajo: yeah. i was able to, with the president, observe and be in the smaller two rigs that we looked at. and so again, the reinforced comment of how tight it was, it was tight, just from my observation, not being a professional within that. in terms of the los angeles rig and what was out on monday, 'cause i wasn't there, i know they were talking about different -- different sizes. it was the los angeles size something more that we're looking at or are we looking at something that's more custom built to our accommodation? i think if we are, we might have crossed the line -- i guess what i'm asking is are we looking for more of a custom design based on san francisco? >> that's a great question. good morning, commissioners, chief. chief tony riff i ra. so for example, los angeles currently uses type one, which is the chassis of a pickup truck, which is a stronger, heavy, chassis, and then, they put the box on the back. i think for san francisco, it would be challenging for us because it makes the v

vice president nakajo? >> commissioner nakajo: thank you very much, president cleaveland. you very much, chief, for your report. a few items i just wanted to note, and then i think, based onme on comments, i don't know how many questions chief, but first i wanted to congratulate you on your award on the international association of fire chiefs. i was hoping you could give us a little feedback how it went last weekend at the dinner in dallas so we could share in the good fortune. chief, could you help us a little out on that? >> sure. so i flew out to dallas on august 7, which was a tuesday, and it's a conference that i've attended in the past. not on a regular basis. it's an annual conference. it's called f.r.i. it is an acronym. it's chief officers, not necessarily just chiefs of the department, but chiefs, officers or those that are at an officer level, aspiring to be chief, attended by approximately 2500 to 3,000 people, and there's workshops over the course of the three days. so on wednesday, the -- basically, it was -- i had met with some of my colleagues. i was able

vice president nakajo. you had comments. >> vice president nakajo: thank you very much mr. president. commissioner veronese, i appreciate this resolution. i think in terms of your statements and in terms of the reasons why you want to promote and advance this resolution. i don't have a problem in terms of many of the things that you said. the majority of the things you mentioned, i don't have a problem with them. i'm concerned about the details that are part of this resolution. this resolution from my workings, it didn't have a number on it. there's seven pages on here. i didn't know how much you want to go into it. for myself, i have a questions on every page. i have some detailed question on every page. i know this is a planning document but i did not know if you likely to make a reference to those questions at this particular time or basically i didn't know highway long o -- hw long or how far you want to go in terms of this resolution if you are moving towards discussion, questions or ultimately are you looking for an acceptance of this resolution. i'm not quite sure we

. >> commissioner nakajo: okay. and i didn't realize that we have a budget for facilitator, and so i assume that's going to be taken care of, who are the facilitator is in the budget. so i just wanted to get more of the information. and i think between 10:00 and 3:00, there's lunch scheduled, and my clarity, is it a working lunch or social lunch? and just for myself, 10:00 to 3:00 is a lot of time. i have something pressing in the afternoon, but if we can see a calendar -- >>commissioner cleaveland: i've got 3:30. >> commissioner nakajo: well, this calendar has willingly got some engagements. i will be there madam secretar next item. >> clerk: item eight, correspondence, e-mail from don chan dated 8-11-18. >>commissioner cleaveland: any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners, any comments? seeing none. >> clerk: item nine, adjournment. >>commissioner cleaveland: i would like to adjourn this meeting in honor of the four fallen firefighters fighting the fires, most recently,

. >> vice president nakajo. >> commissioner veronese, i want to thank you for the hard work and the passion. about a year ago when you came, one of the first statements you stressed with your fundraiser was in this regard of stress of the members in terms of the regard. at this particular time i would like to acknowledge and appreciate the commissioners on this commission as well as the chief and everyone of you command staff, and every member in this audience that has been with us for the last three hours. i totally agree with commissioner covington, a good, healthy, robust discussion. and i appreciate you being in it at the forefront so we could discuss it. for me, in terms as well, with the contract question that came about for individuals, it's about options. and it's about options to be able to have the options. and of course, within our own family and our own house, i think we want to reach out to our members in terms of our own, but i also share the feeling that sometimes i like to go to someone who doesn't know me at all. because sometimes self esteem and guilt is tough enough when

vice president steven nakajo.