investigating a group engaged in potential thieves like nambla.there's a good faith estimate first amendment standpoint goes beyond what the fourth amendment standard would be. so there's no fourth amendment problem with infiltrating the group. if somebody on the inside of the group is going to share information with the government, not a fourth amendment issue but it could be a first amendment issue is the purpose of it was to try to interfere with first amendment expression to the implication of that is the purpose of nothing to do with first amendment expression. just the fourth amendment and the first amendment issues the way. otherwise be difficult -- a lot of criminal investigations will involve revealing what a person did and by revealing what a person did is going to involve what a person thinks and to their friends are, and so if the first amendment impose a barrier to that he would be hard to have a lot of criminal investigations generally. i think the most first amendment protected approach i've seen is the ninth circuit which i like to

nambla was the best remember years ago we took them apart? they he had had a web site.ly ill. >> teachers are 27, 28, 29, '30. these boys are not 8. they are 17. >> i was 21 when i started teaching. i had 18 and 17-year-olds. and everybody knew in that school if you did anything your whole life was going to be over. come on. >> they're not thinking about the consequences. they don't care, bill. kids are looking older. the reason they are going to jail too bill, is because there is more female prosecutors and judges that are taking this seriously as they should. >> if your teacher doesn't matter if you are man or woman or preying on those kids you have got to go to jail. >> thank you. >> when we come back, miller time. university of chicago trying to teach kids how to hang out. no joke. miller is next. i'm not sick. i'm not sick. i'm not sick. she's perfectly healthy. cigna covers preventive care. that's having your back. you can call me shallow... but, i have a wandering eye. i mean, come on. national gives me the control to choose any car in the aisle i want. i could c

there is a case from the ninth circuit involving nambla.good-faith test from a first amendment case standpoint that goes beyond the fourth amendment. there is no fourth amendment within tilt rating the group and if you have somebody on the inside and there could be a first amendment issue if the purpose was to try too interfere with the amendment. but if it was not to interfere with the first amendment and that goes away. and other wise it would be difficult to have -- a lot of criminal investigations involve revealing what a person did and by revealing what a person did it will involve what a person thinks and who their friends are and so if the first -- if the first amendment imposed a barrier to that, it is hard to have a lot of criminal investigations generally. so i think the first amendment protective approach i've seen is the ninth circuit which, as i interpreted it amounted to a good faith standard. so the issues are there but they are relatively moderate in most cases. >> yes, sir. >> hi. david clark student at george mason and i w