matter who you were, you could run for office, it's not going to be like that unless we change the die namicsules. >> it's like a campaign between megamillionaires. but it's always good to have you here. >> thank you. >> and how far did the obama administration go to keep controversial solyndra afloat? the heart of the secret about solyndra. . >> judge: why did the >>> why did the energy secretary push for a $1.4 billion loan guarantee of taxpayer money to a company required to buy panels from solyndra just as it went out of business? a fellow from the hoover institute joins us this everything. peter how are you? >> i'm great judge, great to be back on with you. >> thank you. we're delighted to have you. now, after $535 million because of the great, green energy company solyndra. now it comes out they approved a loan to another company, and what is the connection between the two? >> they're going put solar technology on roof tops and provide clean energy. problem is that solyndra was in financial trouble. so the department of energy intervened and told them they're going give them a governmen

. >> there's an interesting namic when you look at the media portrayals and the most uninformed and populara movement like the occupation, which is crazy protesters in the park beating drums, getting arrested, could not have anything in common with the tea party, which is very-well organized, very specific political apparatus it's been able to build. when i personally go around and talk to people that self-identify as tea partiers and/or occupiers, they tell me the same thing, which is we have two sets of rules. how do we get past the issues of mark meckler with a moe hawk versus mark meckler as an upstanding attorney from california. same guy, different identity. it seems we're lost in identity. >> the politicians like it that way. they want us to fight. they want republican versus democrat. pro-life versus pro-choice. they profit from that fight. our job is to strip away that fight, to find the commonality, and take back our government. it's about devolving power back to the people. >> technology makes possible on a level we have never seen before. >> you see it in the occupy movement. it

again and we have the best talent in the country at the spaes coast because it's exciting and die namic and who knows what next week will be like. does that mean i'm a visionary? you bet you. [cheers and applause] >> host: joined by fowl for a discussion about the space program in light of former speaker newt gingrich's speeches about wanting to put a colony on the moon. last time you were on, you talked # about the current goal in space is not necessarily to reach a destination, but to develop technologies and a better understanding of the earth. in light of speaker newt gingrich's comments, is there -- people out there who want to go to a destination? do you see a strong desire of getting back to the destination? >> guest: people who support the space program value the destination. it makes an impact on congress when it comes to spending the money, and the generations in power are used to spending money. the moon was a destination for a long time. we're in the era where it's a destination realistically because we can't afford it, and the obama administration encourages firms to step f