now it is probably the most tie namic section of our country. i think there are many things that we could talk about. >> there is a memorial that is being planned now in washington. it's adjacent to the mall. >> i just stepped down as a commissioner. >> i stepped down because i have a conflict of interest. i had become chairman of the presidential foundation. and this memorial is going to raise funds nationally and we're trying to raise funds. it is a general conflict. it's not -- it's -- and alts we have entered a phase where the eisenhower memorial is actually being design ed. brought down all kinds of differences of opinion. that doesn't surprise me. if you think about how you would do a national memorial to dwight eisenhower, i could come up with a thousand ideas. the way the commission did it is they retained probably the most famous architect in the world. washington is responding to that. i am not surprised with their other designed out there i do not doubt that there will be modifications in the existing design and it will work out all o

my guide to this was an information officer of the 25th infantry division, a die nat namic black officer was about my own age, captain riley leroy pits. we became immediate friends. he found black soldiers doing every imaginable job. i knew i wasn't going to get in the house when i got back to washington if i didn't find a woman to interview. he took me to the hospital where we were introduced to a nurse who was extremely light-skinned, very, very light. as a matter of fact, she looked white. but i figured leroy had been black a very long time and knew what he was doing. so i asked the nurse whether anybody had discriminated against her because of her race. she looked terribly confused. then i turned to leroy and i said, hey, brother, is she black or white? now that you mention it, man, i don't know. so i asked him to call up somebody who might know. he called up dottie harris, an honest to god black woman. you got to get that report frer time out of here as fast as you can. that girl is white and plans to stay white for the rest of her life. well, leroy, brother, i said, how could you d

you've studied the die namics of campaign promises and actually administration follow through on them. what's your analysis of the current climate dpr realistic economic policy as part of the campaign? >> well, right now neither side has a campaign in place that is realistic. on the republican side, they're preoccupied fight each other and aren't devoting the resources there. i think they should. the president has all the resources in the world plus the whole government and he's not doing it either. so you don't for example, put forward a budget that has a print for one year's economic growth of 4.5%. that's la la land. no president should do that in a credible way. and the media should be calling them on it. i think both sides could be better than what we're doing. i'm not sure why it was true in that case. we have an internal forecast. it turned out to be closer to the mark dloers the one the cbo is using at the time for the economy. we had a budget. we had to spend money. we imposed it on ourselves. i'm not saying everything is perfect about the campaign. but at least we gave it a