right this minute," we get the story behind theo we go via skype to the cooke islands to chat with nan houwzer "right this minute." thank you for joining us. [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you. >> did you see the shark before the whale started moving to protect you? >> shocked the whale had me on his head his chin and then his back. i knew in the distance there was another whale tail slapping and i was just trying to stay cool because i really thought that i was going to be killed by this whale. >> how did you interpret the whale's behavior as it was happening? >> i was more concerned that i had to get away from him, and so it wasn't until i saw the shark, it was the biggest tiger shark i'd ever seen. it was huge. then i kind of went ahh! i got to get out of here. >> how rof dent are you in the feeling the whale was protecting you and maybe not just our human spirit believe a protecting it us. >> it was his eye. i knew he was trying to tell me something. i read papers by friends of mine scientific papers like robert pittman, where he writes about humpbacks. they will rush in. like a house is