chief pettynior officer malcolm nance. what is the story of the nance family in the military?uest: i love being called senior chief. i come from a very old u.s. military family. for african americans, it is sort of an achievement. my family started it. my first person to serve was my great-great-grandfather. 111brother also joined the u.s. color troops. they guarded the tennessee andey during the offensive he got bored with it, so he joined the u.s. navy. he transitioned from the u.s. army to the u.s. navy and became a landsman aboard a recovering warfare -- rivering warfare craft. we accept the army a little. host: where did they live in those days? guest: they came from a slave family in northern alabama. it is interesting because the nance's started in south carolina. but my father's side came from western georgia. there is a small place called nanceville. time of the civil war, that is where virtually all african-american nance's originated. host: when did you decide to become a navy man? guest: my father was a master chief in the navy and i was born in a naval hospital, p

malcolm nance is was and on the set with me today, a power powerful, a former fbi assistant director, reporteder for the guardian and national political correspondent for the washington post. let's great to it. this is a routinely scheduled hearing but at an anything but routine time. what are we expecting here? >> reporter: you're absolutely right. the first testimony from fbi

tonight a conversation with malcolm nance. then elizabeth motion joins us to talk about her starring role in "the handmaid's tale." malcolm nance and elizabeth moss coming up in a moment. >>> and >>> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like y you. thank you. >>> last weekend, of course, marked president trump's 100th day in august since his campaign. what has his administration actually achieved, more importantly, what's ahead. he's a 35 year military vet who served with u.s. special operations forces and the department of homeland security among other agencies. he is the author of several books including the plot to hack america. how putin's cyber spies and wikileaks tried to steal the 2016 election. we're honored to have him on this program. good to have you here, man. >> glad to be here. >> the president as candidate. made a lot of promises on the campaign trail, in the first 100 days, what do you most want to draw our attention to that he has or has not regarding foreign policy. a few weeks back i was at

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story tonight, listen to our own intelligence expert, a veteran of many years in the field malcolm nance. >> some of these contacts are so suspicious that they would have warranted their own counter intelligence investigation. this nation is in a counter intelligence investigation. they are in a spy hunt over at the fbi now we have this story, should it prove true, of an american citizen who is the senior advisor to the president of the united states attempting to establish what we calm in the intelligence community covert communications with a hostile nation's potential intelligence agency or senior leadership that crosses the line to the espionage act of 1917. this cannot be explained. this one incident requires jared kushner and all his immediate staff to have their clearances pulled right now and to have the fbi descend on them and determine whether this is hostile intelligence from the white house one step from the president. >> there you have it. how serious in your eyes if true? >> i think it really depends on the under lying conduct by jared and what he was talking about with the

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story tonight, listen to our own intelligence expert, a veteran of many years in the field, malcolm nance. >> some are so suspicious they would warrant their own counter intelligence investigation. this is in a counter intelligence investigation. they are in a spy hunt over at the fbi and we have this story. should it prove true of an american citizen who is the senior adviser to the president of the united states attempting to establish what we call in the intelligence community covert communications with a hostile nation's potential intelligence agency or senior leadership. that crosses the line to the espionage act of 1917. this cannot be explained. put aside the other 18 contacts with moscow. this one incident requires jared kushner and his staff to have their clearances pulled right now and have the fbi decent on them and determine whether this is hostile intelligence in the white house one step from the president. >> there you have it how serious is this in your eyes, if true? >> i think it really depends on the underlying conduct by jared. what he was talking about with the russian

i want to bring in now to this conversation malcolm nance, terrorism analyst and a great help to us on nights like this. thank you for being with us tonight. i appreciate your time. >> glad i could help out. >> malcolm, we obviously know what we know about this, which is not much. i always expect that what we think we know will change, but we know enough to know this is terrible. we have dozens reported injured. we know the venue was filled with a lot of 11, 12, 13, 14-year-old girls and young people. that was basically the target audience for an ariana grande show. we're also told that the working hypothesis is suicide bomber. can you tell us what we should be looking at in terms of trying to nail down what really happened here, and if there's other attacks like this that this reminds you of. >> it certainly reminds me of over attacks, if it turns out to be a suicide bomber at a large venue. one is the the bataclan incident in france where two suicide bombers attacked the stadium of france during a major game which much even the french president. one suicide bomber went up to a securi

joining me now, congressman leonard nance of new jersey. are you glad to see bob mueller named to this position? >> i think it's a fine decision by the deputy attorney general, and i'm sure that mr. mueller will do an excellent job, chris. >> are you troubled by the reporting of what comey apparently wrote in a memo about the president of the united states asking him to essentially stop pursuing an investigation of his fired national security adviser? >> that's why i think we need to have director comey come to capitol hill as soon as possible with open testimony, and i'm certainly willing to listen to that testimony. and obviously the american people deserve the testimony of director comey. >> if that were true, would that be obstruction of justice to your mind? >> that's an open question. i, of course, would be a grand juror if there were such an action on the floor of the house, and so i don't want to prejudice myself at this time. but i certainly recognize that this is a serious matter. and, chris, i take my responsibilities seriously.

malcolm nance, author of "the plot to hack america." a senior advisor at the state department, ron klain, and michael schmidt. michael, your paper was the one that first reported that this intelligence came from israel. elaborate on that. >> well, obviously the zerldz a israelis are very important to us in that region because they can do things that the united states can't. they have proximity that the united states doesn't. but the interesting thing here is actually if you look back at the campaign, the issue of the disclosure of classified information that mr. trump and his national security -- early national security advisor mr. flynn made about hillary clinton, there was never any evidence that anything that hillary clinton had, her mishandling of classified information, was ever disclosed publicly. and now this administration's forced to explain how it disclosed this information. so it is a bit embarrassing. >> michael, you're absolutely right. it was a key component of donald trump's campaign, that hillary clinton might have leake

announcer: former counterterrorism and intelligence officer malcolm nance on his career and most recent book. and hacking isis, how to destroy the cyber jihad. >> it came out of hacking isis. while we were writing that, there were two hacks that were tb5 in france and the bundestag, the parliament in germany, done by isis. the places where the servers terminated were certainly not isis. they were what is now known as apb 28, cozy bear. that was the name that the cyber security company gave for their interpretation of this malware package that belonged to russian military intelligence, the gr you -- the gru. before leaving sicily following the wrapup of the g-7 summit meeting, president trump addressed military personnel at a naval air station. first lady melania trump was also at the event and sp

. >> he was joined on stage by retired intelligence officer malcolm nance and john dean, white housensel to president richard nixon. dean said he could see similarities between nixon and the current president. >> nixon, behind closed doors very authoritarian, trump very authoritarian in public. they are similar personalities. this can be troublesome, but this is what some people want. >> dean goes on to say that he does not think that president trump will be impeached so long as the republicans have the majority in congress, and nance says there is a lot of information about the russian possible interference in the 2016 presidential election that has been public. depending on what comes out and win it could change history. >>> there is a cold reception for vice president mike pence at the university of notre dame in indiana where some of the graduating students protested. the vice president was set to deliver a commencement address at the graduation ceremony yesterday but as soon as he was introduced dozens of students did this, and their parents, they stood up and walked out. the st

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. >> former intelligence officer malcolm nance on his career and most recent book. >> it came out ofacking isis. while we were hacking isis, we found there were two hacks done france and germany. they were attributed to isis. while we were studying that, we learned the methodologies, the malware introduced, and the place where the servers terminated that were stealing the information were not isis. they were what are now known as atp 28. security gave their interpretation of this malware package that belonged to russian military intelligence, the gr you. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern. >> former secretary of state and presidential candidate hillary clinton was the speaker at the graduation ceremony at wellesley college, her own alma mater 48 years ago. this is just over 30 minutes. [applause] ms. clinton: thank you. thank you so much. [cheers and applause] ms. clinton: thank you. thank you very much for that warm welcome. i am so grateful to be here back at wellesley, especially for

about those people who sacrificed so that we can enjoy today back in the united states. >> malcolm nance i wanted to get your take on the significance and the importance of this day for you. >> well, it's extremely important for me, as colonel jacobs said. this is about memorializing our comrades and fellows in arms that didn't come home. and as i'm a combat veteran, and my family has served in every war since the civil war, and i'm fortunate that we all came home. but there's this tinge of regret with all of us who understand how our peers and our comrades' families feel, especially those who are gold star parents. and it breaks our heart to have to, you know, go and meet them and remember those who were lost. and so for me, it's very personal. it's very personal. i've lost numerous of my coworkers, people who i have trained, in iraq and afghanistan, lebanon, and so it's very important that we as a nation come together on this one day and leave our personal partisanship and passions behind and remember those people who gave the ultimate sacrifice for this nation. >> kevin barrett, i'm g

bringing together to discuss corporate govern nance including countries like argentina, mexico and peru, nations looking forward to being enacted such as this. for individuals and national noncompliance. the third, which is the one i spent a significant amount of time on is defending our values. for me it begins by standing up for freedom and for democracy. i fear quite frankly for the better part of 30 or 40 years too much time has been played. during the cold war we looked the other way as right wing dictators took power in the hopes of keeping out the soviet union. in the 21st century we too off outright neglected as the rule of law have been cancelled in places like venezuela, ecuador, bolivia and cuba. presidential messaging and leadership is critical and needed to reverse the perception that the united states can tougher on allies than it is on adversaries. i hope we will recalculate and that we will also finally begin to pressure the government in venezuela, to hold an election, to recognize national assembly and to assemble and speak freely. there is no way anyone associated wit

intelligence officer malcolm nance on his most recent americahe plot to hack ," and "hacking isis."riting "hacking isis," we found that there were two hacks that happened, one in france and another against the which wereestag, attributed to isis. while we were studying that, we learned that the methodologies, the malware that was introduced, and the place where the servers terminated that were stealing the information were certainly not isis, they were what are now -- atp28,tp 27 cozybear. bear" was the name that crowd strike gave to russian military intelligence, the gru. >> sunday on c-span's "q&a." >> on wednesday, former acting deputy attorney general sally yates delivered remarks to graduates on harvard class day. she discussed lessons from her own career and the events that led to her dismissal by the trump administration. this was held the day before the commencement ceremony. this is 30 minutes. [applause] ms. yates: thank you for a beautiful and generous introduction. the distinguished faculty, family, friends, and most of , all, the graduates of the harvard law school clas

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and malcolm nance, a counterterror and intel analyst. a loft questions looming over flynn as each day we get other pieces of the puzzle. what are you looking at as the key questions congress still wants him to answer? >> well, you know, i think obviously the questions of whether or not he communicated with people in russia that wound up being connected to the attacks on the election. i think that is the $64 million question. we know he has this affinity. we know he did that december 2015 rt dinner where he sat at putin's table. and we know after being turfed out at the defense intelligence agency he became a prime target for golden financial opportunities he could get in russia and obviously with turkey. so his business dealings made him vulnerable. and i think you understand that paul manafort obviously vulnerable for similar reasons. he had done business with oligarchs in ukraine. with michael flynn that he was eagerly seek immunity means he understands he is in great deal of legal jeopardy based on not telling the truth on his forms,

joining me now, a former ambassador to nato, and malcolm nance, msnbc trim analyst. as someone who is familiar with diplomacy, familiar with international relations, and the protocols by which governments talk to each other, perhaps incoming governments may talk to each other, what do you make of this story? >> well, it's a remarkable story, and as the press and the investigators figure out what was happening, we will get to the bottom of it. it is true that during transitions, i was a member of the obama/biden transition in '08-'09, that during transitions it is not unheard of for incoming officials to have contact with foreign governments. certainly that happened in our case. we did it with allies. we talked to the french and the brits and the germans, and it might be appropriate to have one or so conversations with other countries, including an important country like russia. the idea of establishing a separate, outside the mainstream communication channel, which is what is reported in "the washington post," really is something different. it takes a president-elect

malcolm nance is was and on the set with me today, a power powerful, a former fbi assistant director, reporteder for the guardian and national political correspondent for the washington post. let's great to it. this is a routinely scheduled hearing but at an anything but routine time. what are we expecting here? >> reporter: you're absolutely right. the first testimony from fbi director james comey since the march hearing when he did divulge very carefully without giving statement beyond the simple statement that the fbi was investigating alleged russian meddling into the 2016 presidential election. there are going to be a lot of questions about that from both sides of the aisle. you're right. i'm here outside the senate room. the judiciary committee with a standard oversight committee raerg. very auspicious given everything that's happened, given the fact that hillary clinton spoke yesterday and laid much of the blame for her defeat at the feet of the fbi director. he just walked into the room. didn't have a comment. it's all against the backdrop. continuing to tweet is donald trump,

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back with me, malcolm nance, matt welsh and jason johnson.lcolm, the justice department says sessions failed to share the information he met with russian officials. this isn't necessarily a surprise. this is the reason he had to recuse himself two months ago. so what's the big ah-ha here. he didn't think it was an issue then. >> it's a question of documentation. we actually -- they actually have a copy of the sf-86 or confirmed the s-86 -- sf-86 security floor he deliberately withheld. that is immediate grounds for dismiss in most circumstances. sessions with his contacts with russia going from suspicious to sinister. people have to understand why these people are hiding their contacts from russia months ago. not in real-time. >> what if sessions can prove he says the fbi person working on this told him you don't need to disclose this, this was part of your normal senate activities. >> it will give him protection for his job. as a senator meets with a lot of people and i'm sure it's not justhe russians he didn't disclose contacts with. it was

believe that if we keep on, we can be effective a second time, and third, and eventually bring about nancee nuclear arms race. >> the commitment demonstrated by the 1961 test ban movement is even more critical today. >> what is needed at this rate is for the electorate to get mad, to understand that it bears the ultimate responsibility for our national policies. >> test ban is a good idea, it should be part of any sort of end to the nuclear arms race. >> i remember the war broke out -- the second floor, somebody stops beyond the speech. they said, i suppose you are going to set up shop. i said, you ever say to a doctor, when an epidemic breaks out are you going to set up shop? no, you add to it and work harder. that's where we are. i am not discouraged, i am frightened. >> when enough is enough -- no american would suggest that it would eat patriotic to remain in a position of weakness. but no patriotic american can consider that the wisest policy for this country is to continue an all-out arms race. with get to back off from the -- the first logical step is an enforceable joint u.s.-sovie

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also back with me malcolm nance, author of "the plot to hack america."not flattery to say that both you have gentlemen are perfect to give us some insights given everything today. leo, you heard pete break down how this works. the fbi line agents work in this case aren't going to change either way. but in your view, are there potential benefits to them to having more potentially independent oversight prosecutor? >> right. so my concern as a former fbi official is to restore the credibility of the institution. i think i would urge the li leadership there to step out of the impact zone. right now there is a lot of political pressure on the fbi. we have seen how it impacted director comey and the credibility of the fbi during the clinton e-mail investigation. and i would say we're moving closer to the point where it's best for the institution to step aside and allow an independent investigator to come in and actually handle these matters. they're that sensitive. >> does that mean special counsel would help? >> i think if that were defined with certain autho

malcolm nance former counterterrorism officer is here. and sean henry is also here, now president and chief security officer at crown strike, a firm that specializes in cybersecurity. sean also an msnbc contributor. and jim cavanaugh is a law enforcement analyst. sean, you first called my attention to this about 20 minutes ago. you needily knew what it was. these steel beams that pop up from the ground here in new york city. >> yeah, those are placed strategically in the high pedestrian traffic areas specifically to stop vehicles from coming up on to the sidewalk into that area. and looking at this particular vehicle, there is one of two ways that car is up on that stand shon, either it catapulted somehow or it may have been activated, somebody perhaps saw something occurring and actually activated it while the car was passing over it. not clear exactly how it happened. but certainly stopped the vehicle there going any further one way or the other from either if it was propelled through the air, stopping it from continuing to roll, or if

. >> malcolm nance p his -- on h three weeks to separate them all. is career and how wikileaks tried to still 2016 election. tracking isis. >> it actually came out of were.g while we two hacks that were done against one in france. another one against the germans, germany's parliament. which were attributed to isis. while we were studying that, the methodology, the malware introduced and the place the servers to were terminated were not isis. they are atp-28. strife,he name, cloud their interpretation of this malware package that belonged to russian military intelligence. >> sunday night on 8:00 eastern. trump is in sicily. world leaders gathered for an official photo. germany,ates, france, italy, and the united kingdom. italy, and the united kingdom.

. >> former intelligence officer malcolm nance on his career and most recent book. hacking basis. how to destroy the cyber jihad. while we were writing it, we found there were two hacks that in france.gainst one and another against germany's parliament. which were attributed to isis. while we were studying that we learned the methodologies, the malware that was introduced and the servers that were stealing the information were certainly not isis. 28. were a tp it was the name the cyber security company gave up for their interpretation of this malware package that belonged to russian military intelligence. tonight at 8:00 on c-span's q&a. harris,morning, holly executive director of the u.s. talkse action network about attorney general jeff sessions call for stricter sentencing guidelines. talks aboutparsi the future of u.s. iran relations following the reelection of iranian president rouhani. michael stratford looks at how the fy 2018 budget could impact the education department and policy. you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. washington journal is

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our terror analyst malcolm nances a new questions about that. let's play that. >> why would he want to hide, covert, his communications from the u.s. government? that right there alone is covert communications. that is indicative of espionage activity of an american citizen that is working in league with a hostile government. >> so he goes on to say in that statement, elise, that there's a question about whether his security clearance should be pulled based on these potential developments. how would you answer some of the questions that malcolm brought up? >> well, malcolm is absolutely right that any other american official who made this kind of proposal to a foreign government to have a private line of communications that avoided u.s. government detection would have their security clearance not just yanked immediately, but likely would be subject to prosecution for espionage. so this is very serious. it could have been just an ignorant mistake on mr. kushner's behalf. i really think peter made a good point in that president trump and kushner b

thank you so much, malcolm nance and bianna golodryga. let's bring in justice correspondent pete williams. pete, obstruction of justice carries a lot of meaning to the civilian non-lawyer it means stopping the wheels of justice from coming at you, using your power to do it. what is it legally? >> i think you just said a moment ago that life is complicated, and this is complicated too. and i've talked to several federal prosecutors and not surprisingly they have different notions about whether the bare bones of what we know here would constitute obstruction of justice. the central thing here is that unlike many federal statutes, the obstruction statutes don't have a specific intent element. instead, what they say is where they supply it is whoever corruptly tries to influence a federal investigation. that's the key word, "corruptly." it doesn't mean in the usual context of doing something if someone pays you. it means with bad intent, with evil intent, with the intent to derail an investigation. and simply by the president's words that hav

. >> former counterterrorism and intelligence officer, malcolm nance on his career, the most recent book, the plot to hack america, how wikileaks tried to hijack the 2016 election. >> it came out of hijacking isis while we were writing hacking isis, we found there were two hacks that were done against one tv 5, in france, and another one against the german boon desstag was -- methodologies, malware introduced and the place where the servers terminated that were stealing the information were certainly not isis. they were what are now known as apt-28, right? cozy bear. cozy bear was the name that crowdstrike, the cybersecurity company, gave for their interpretation of this malware package that belonged to russian military intelligence, the gru. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's "q&a." >> the canadian national defensemen sister visited d.c. this week where he took part in a discussion at the wilson center. focused on u.s. defense cooperation, canada's defense policy review, nato peace-keeping operations and the importance of modernizing the north american aerospace defense command

defense last year, we would have had another $119 billion for our collective defense and for the nancing of additional nato reserves. we should recognize that with these chronic underpayments and growing threats even 2% of g.d.p. is insufficient to close the gaps in modernizing readiness and the size of forces. we have to make up for the many years lost. 2% is the bare minimum for confronting today's very real and very vicious threats. if nato countries made their full and complete contributions, then nato would be even stronger than it is today, especially from the threat of terrorism. >> mick mulvaney appeared before a senate committee earlier today to testify about president trump's budget plan. "the hill" with a story about that. senator bernie sanders and white house budget chief mick mulvaney clashed over president trump's budget proposal, interrupting each other and raising their voices in a senate budget committee hearing. senator sanders kicked off the hearing by charging that the budget's repeal of the estate tax would give massive breaks to the country's wealthiest families. i

at 8:00, our conversation with counterterrorism and intelligence officer malcolm nance on q&a. >> c-span's guest on "newsmakers" is senator patrick leahy. use the ranking democratic member of the senate appropriations committee, and a member and one-time chair of the senate judiciary committee. he is the dean of the senate which means he is the longest-serving in this summit in the fifth longest-serving senator in u.s. history. thank you for being with us. senator leahy: thank you very much. >> let me introduce our reporters, the chief congressional correspondent and -- for the washington examiner and the congressional reporter for the los angeles times and chicago tribune. both returning to our set today. thanks her being here. as we start this thursday afternoon, we have just heard the trump travel ban has had another downturn in the federal court. i'm wondering what your reaction is to this and is this headed for the supreme court? sen. leahy: it's interesting. the ninth circuit already knocked it down. now the fourth circuit has knocked it down. this next one is a more liberal circuit