amy: nancy biberman?i was at the university is not really utilizing one of the collective learnings and realizations that women had going through a massive civil unrest and feeling somewhat at a distance from leadership and decision-making, and that is what we all failed. and some of us tried to through it.unch but i think we came of age. we sort of painfully learned our place in the political movement. and most of us have been fighting ever since to redefine our roles in society, but that was our crucible. amy: we're going to have to leave it there. we will continue this conversation and jua,n come he will be speaking on friday night, ray, your speaking tonight at hamilton all. , one of then leaders of the black students --nancy biberman also speaking up on her college. mark rudd measurement of the columbia chapter of sts and paul cronin, "a time to stir: columbia '68." he is worked on this issue for 50 years. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ -today on "america's test kitchen," erin and bridget make the ultimate apple strudel, a