. >> let me focus on the days following that interview with nancy brinker, when the decision was reversedhat karl rove and others, debbie wasserman schultz pressured brinker to back down on the position that you had taken. now we've gotten in touch with both karl rove and debbie wasserman schultz and spokes people for them say that did not take place, karl rove is denying any involvement, wasserman schultz is saying -- he says mrs. handle's account is not accurate and wasserman schultz says characterization of the call to nancy bringer as threatening could not be further from the truth. i can only relate how it was related to me when events were unfolding. what i can tell you is that, it is without question that komen was on the receiving end of a bullying beat-up by planned parenthood and the left. the organization was receiving bomb threats. we had congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz was weighing in, no question trying to pressure the organization. corporate sponsors were being contacted and told, see what we're doing to komen if you don't stop supporting them, you're next. that's bu