we're talking about suicide because we must so let's bring in nancy collier psychotherapist and author of the book the power of off the mind for way to stay same in a virtual world nancy i love the title of your book and i appreciate you joining us on such short notice thanks for having me same question i asked our other guest about these sobering suicide statistics why is this happening. if we had the answer to that we would probably be a lot happier as a society and i always make the argument that the way we're living right now with came being the centerpiece of our life and this life where what we're chasing has nothing to do with what really feeds us and brings meaning to our life you know that that's working against us we've never seen depression statistics like we're seeing now and it for me it speaks to the fact that what's important to us right now in this new digital world is not what we really need as human beings and there's so much shame around depression there's so much sense that there's something wrong with you if you're depressed that people don't realize that it's a tr

. >> here to react, author, nancy collier. good morning. thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> what is bill mar doing. he's literally hating president trump so much that he's rooting for another recession. >> i don't think he''s really rooting for another recession. i think what he's trying to point out is that our democracy is at stake right now. if there are no rules, then there's no system. and what we're seeing right now is that if somebody is above the law and people that commit crimes or do whatever they do are let off the hook, which is what's being suggested right now, then we have no system to protect us. i don't know if you really pushed bill martha he meant we should suffer more financially. actually the economy is doing quite well and that's one thing we're really excited about. i don't foe if he might have been being a bit sarcastic. but the rules are being taken away. democracy. >> hang on. it prejudges that the president has done anything illegal to begin with. the whole notion that the president is above the law and it's so