them, things in the country begin to go awry so i think nancy pelosi and actually the institutions of government are the winners in this. >> matthew dowd joining us from texas, matthew, thank you very much. and what was that statistic we were talking about? >> well, the fact that 6 billion it is estimated now has been lost because of the government shutdown and the president wanted 5.7 billion. we were just wondering whether or not which side would benefit from that stat line the most, promoting that. >> yeah. >> probably nobody. >> exactly. that's where we are right now. >>> meantime, to a friend of president trump and former adviser remaining defiant this morning after being indicted as part of the special counsel's investigation. >> roger stone is now the sixth trump associate charged by robert mueller's office. abc's kyra phillips is in virginia with that story. kyra, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, eva. well, he's an eccentric and controversial fixture in big ticket politics, known in equal parts for his merciless tactics and vintage style, also a player in five presidential campaigns, but now one of president trump's old