vice president that is lieutenant nancy galvin. >> thank you very much. thank you very much, chief postel and thank you very much are report back to commissioner covington if she has more questions at this time. commissioner covington. >> thank you, mr. vice president. and thank you for going over the photographs included in our packets. chief, i remember the great tragedy that happened may be 7 years ago and was it arizona? where about 14 firefighters were over come by fire was really very tragic. event. the whole squad was wiped out. i will never forget that. so -- thank you for bring up something that is important for people to know about. and thank you for your report. and i did have a couple of additional questions for you. chief postel. i was wondering if you could talk more about the street scape plans. and how those plans are developed and implemented? >> i think fire marshall hawthorn has the best insight in that. since he sits on the meetings several times a week. >> thank you. >> i'm interested particularly in how these plans are impacting -- c