and nancy geils, actress, contributor on cbs's "sunday morning." ben, we'll start with health care.l it pass? >> it will pass, but it's going to be a tremendous problem for mr. obama, because he's violated so many promises. the republicans would have done the same thing, it's just that he promised he would be different. >> larry: penn, is it going to pass? >> i think it will, and i just -- i believe that the democrats and obama want what's best for us, and probably know what's best for us, but is it okay to force even a good thing on people? i don't know. >> larry: nancy? >> i think it's going to pass, and i'm actually really gratified, listening to dennis kucinich tonight. i think it's a step in the right direction. and when you think of issues like gender equality, that didn't stop with women getting the vote in 1920, civil rights didn't stop with brown versus the board of education. we're getting a foot in the door to make some really great changes, and it's kind of unacceptable to have tens of millions of people in this country without access to a good doctor or good health care