. >> one of the pair of authors they worked with were nancy gibbs and michael duffy on the presidents club, a book that are "q&a" program covered. what was the process working on the presidents club with those two? >> i wish that i could say that i came up with that idea because it was such a brilliant idea that i didn't -- i mean, they had been working on that for quite some time, nancy and michael, and the idea came to them after they had written a very great book on billy graham and they realized the degree to which the president talked to the ex-president and how much that clubs help to shaped the presidency and out is what gave them ideas to explore this in a thorough way. and so it was a very modern idea because obviously we had to get to the 20 century to get to longevity. for practical reasons for this to be possible. but what they found is that it was actually made stronger and sometimes challenged by people in the cypress club. and they had relationships with each other going towards the past and the future. so it did challenge was how to structure the book. if you look at h

what was the process working on the presidents club with nancy gibbs and michael duffy? >> well, i wish i could to i came up with that idea because it was such a brilliant idea i didn't. nancy and mike leavitt working on that for quite some time, and the idea came to them after they had written a very great book on billy graham. they realized the degree to which the president to talk to the ex-presidents at how much the club helped shape the presidency itself, and that's what gave them the idea to export the presidents club in a thorough way. and it was a very modern idea of understanding a president because we had to get to the 20th century for there to be enough longevity, and practical reasons for this to be possible. but what they found was that presidencies were made stronger sometimes challenged by people inside this club. what was interesting about it was that we had over one dozen characters, all of whom had relationships with each other going towards the path and towards the future. so the big challenge in editing his book was how to structure it. anti-to look a

what is the process working on the presidents club with nancy gibbs and michael duffy? >> i wish i could say i came up with that idea because it's such a brilliant idea but i didn't. nancy and michael have been working on that for quite some time and the idea came to them after they had written a very great book on billy graham and they realize the degree to which the president talked to the ex-presidents and how much that club helped shape the presidency itself. that's what gave them ideas to explore the presidents club in a thorough way. it was a very modern idea of understanding the presidency because obviously we have to get to the 20th century for there to be enough longevity and practical for this to be possible but what we found was that presidencies were they made stronger and actually challenged by people inside this club. what was interesting about it was that we had over a dozen characters all of whom had relationships with each other going towards the path of the future. the big challenge in editing this book with how to structure it. if you look at how the