nancy gibbs it is a majority non-us.hough many of these figures their foot prints are very global, so where they operate from -- charlie: that is why obama is on an vladimir putin is on. nancy gibbs: we asked obama to write about modi. we asked david cameron to write about the new iraqi prime minister, the king of jordan to write about the king of saudi arabia. i think that sometimes gives us a little measure of understanding that might be hard to get otherwise. charlie: by the way, just to be a bit self promotional, on the program with you tonight. people who might not necessarily know, who is maria? nancy gibbs: maria has taken the world by storm and telling us about how to the clutter. getting rid of the stuff that clutters up our drawers and heads. it has been this remarkable phenomenon, because she talks about looking at every object you own and asking whether or not it brings you joy and that idea that having as much stuff as is possible for us all to have now may become almost word in some and that she is giving p

. >> rose: and we continue this evening with nancy gibbs, the editor of "time" magazine releasing the time 100 for 2015. >> there's this convergence between business and politics and technology and the arts and culture and science where many of the people that we're featuring, it's because of influence they are having outside of their normal field. >> rose: and we remember gunter grass who died this week with an excerpt from my interview in 2007 when he visited new york. >> i write this book about my mistakes, not asking questions. that's for me, for me much heavier than this short time because i was drafted. it was not my guilt. there is no reason to speak about guilt. >> rose: haider al-abadi became prime minister of iraq in september of 2014. a shi'a muslim, he was prossen by the president of iraq to succeed nouri al-maliki against sunni is in iraq. he's assembling a more inclusive government and his commitment to fight isis. he came this week to washington seeking support in that fight. i spoke with him on thursday in washington just before he left for baghdad. mr. al-abadi thank

nancy gibbs joining us with the full list. nancy, another great issue this year.t this some of the pairings. the people you have -- jon meacham writing about tim mcgraw. we'll get to that. >> and elon musk. >> and i've spoken to kanye about that relationship because it goes well beyond music into the importance of design. they talk about design as the way you will solve the world's problems. mar is thattha stewart writes on kim kardashian kardashian. >> and then scalia writing about ruth bader ginsburg. >> because this is a list about influence, not power. even people who are rivals competitors, appreciate who it is who is changing and rewiring our conversation. a ska lee a scalia writes about the influence gipsburgnsburg has even though they won't agree on a great many things. >> another one that jumped out at me hillary clinton on elizabeth warren. >> yeah that may have been a little mischa advice. but she talks about how elizabeth warren continues to hold people's feet to the fire. >> elizabeth warren's journey there janitor's daughter to harvard professor to p

. >> joining us now the editor of "time" magazine nancy gibbs here to reveal the new cover story. in the news. they changed this cover at the very last minute. >> we watched mike pence's press conference and watching how quickly he had to readjust to the firestorm and for a debate that's as old as the mayflower to be moving as quickly as this and having so many politicians having to adjust so suddenly really does tell you how much the ground has shifted on this question. religious freedom was not a controversial topic. this was -- that's why the laws have been around. but when it was about the right of jehovah's witnesses not to stand during the pledge of allegiance or the right to wear a beard or veil if you're muslim. that was not a controversial issue. it's a broad consensus. what's concerned people who are champions of religious freedom is that consensus is now tainted with the idea that no, this is about the right to discriminate. that conconsensus, we wanted to get into that tension. >> i want jonathan capehart to jump in in a second. you have a couple of pieces. are these la