social commentator for msnbc, nancy giles; president of the -- al sharpton, ceo of bring the noise east link, chuck dee and executive director of bet.com kim osario. earl graves opened the evening challenging the audience. he implored people to be accountable for their actions and urged a change in the ills that have gripped black america for decades. >> enough is enough. i'm speaking, of course, of the increasingly pervasive ghetto culture that's overtaken our youth, our language, our traditions and our values. this discussion tonight isn't going to be about the role of art in society or free speech, or whether the "n" word is acceptable or what hip-hop can teach us. that ship has sailed. the damage has been done. the issue before us is what are we going to do about it. so let's start talking about solutions. enough is enough. thank you. [ applause ] . . >>> if i might, i have a question for the ud yens. if the you'll indulge me and please follow along, how many of you by a show of hands feel like you've seen enough of what mr. graves has talked about? show your hands, please. how many

journalist and cnn tv 1 contributor roland martin, social comment stater for cbs morning news and msnbc, nancy giles, president of the national action network, reverend al sharpton. ceo of bring the noise east link, chuck dee, and executive director of bet kovm kim osario debated the idea of social challenges that have hindered many african-americans for years. >> enough is enough. this discussion tonight isn't going to be about the role of art in society or free speech or whether the "n" word is acceptable or what hip-hop can teach us. that ship has sailed. the damage has been done. the issue before us is what are we going to do about it? >> if i might, i've got a question for the audience. if you'll indulge me and please follow along. how many of you by a show of hands feel like you've seen enough of what mr. graves has talked about? show your hands, please. how many of you believe enough is enough? if, in fact, you dorks stand on your feet for me one time. give some love to what he just said please. [ applause ] >> we are not going to pay to be insumted. they don't have to care. the fact that we

writer and commentator nancy giles with us tonight. lth reporter for "the huffington post" sam stein. former special assistant to president george w. bush ron christie with us tonight. nancy, starting with you. the patience of the american people, where is it right now on afghanistan? >> i don't think it's there. i think as the casualties keep mounting and as the financial and human cost of the war keeps getting bigger, i think people are getting frustrated. i keep going back to thinking, though, that it's the war that is eight years late. if we had stayed in afghanistan back in 2001-2002, when we had osama bin laden at tora bora, we could have made some progress. now i feel like barack obama inherited this mess and the timing is just extraordinarily bad. as you said earlier, we've got financial woes here. we've got health care reform -- >> we don't know how much finances. that's the thing. secretary gates is saying a few more years. that could be billions and billions of dollars. ron christie, it appears to me that president obama is r

. >> let's bring in our panel, nancy giles, writer and commentator. sam styles, with the wp wp and nationally syndicated radio talk show host, michael medved. now i talked about the media coverage and the outcry. how in the world could the car executives take those jets to washington, d.c. and testify. ed, that costs $20,000 in gas to run those things. folks, these numbers are staggering. who can justify -- even on my job, $102,000 an hour? and we don't need reform? >> and they're denying care to people who pay for it. >> help me out with this one. >> no, there's no justification for it at all. this is a ponzi scheme. people should be as outraged by this as they were by bernard madoff. it's the same thing, you're paying into a system that's not payingor or treating you fairly. and i think that every town hall meeting should start with this kind of information and start with a personal story of a person who is suffering because of their health care insurance. we've got to make the stories personal and it's too much money for not enough cause. >> i've g