we have nancy kates that's coming here regarding fontac. and vengeance, alby sachs and the new south africa. so we're very excited about the guests we're having and i wanted to point out one thing. we had a little correction. according to wikipedia, rafael is actually polish born. >> with all the different guests you have in the film, what's the interaction with the audience? what goes on with the guests in the audience? >> i think that's what separates film festivals in general from going to the movie. you have an event. you take to the maker of the work. there's nothing like that. you can ask questions and get your answers immediately. there's a lot of times very spirited discussions, especially with our audience and time to talk to the people after in the lobby. see them walking the streets, talk to them. so it's really special. >> it's really becoming a more engaging experience than just being in the audience watching a screen. >> absolutely. >> believe it or not, we're coming to the end of our time together. we have air low and julie.