government -- from healthcare to education to housing -- with duke university historian professor nancy maclean, author of the new book, "democracy in chains: the deep history of the radical right's stealth plan for america." maclean also uncovers the instrumental role the late libertarian economist james buchanan played in the right's campaign to eliminate unions, suppress voting, and privatize schools. buchanan was an economist to train at the university of chicago and went on t to a number of virginia institutions over the years. he won the nobel prize in 1986 for his original contributions to our understanding of political economy. itit was james buchahanan who tt charles koch for capitalism to thrive, democracy must be in chains. amy: president trump says the environmental protection agency will roll back and obama policy -- environmental policy. pres. trump: the so-called waters of the united states rule is one of the worst examples of federal regulation and it has truly run amok. amy: this comes as the intercept reports the person trump has tapped to be the epa's water safety official is