and, so, we were directed by nancy moran to decouple that. so, what we presented here with the two issues that he articulated to us is look at the mix of hetchy power and then look at the recs. and, so, what we did is we went exactly what he did, and that's what the basis of this column. now, i know there may be three or four points on here that you do not agree or lpi needs to talk about, but i just wanted to make the point, is that it's still the premium that ed brought up when he went to the board of supervisors that we're presenting now. and, so, he never -- i don't think he agreed that the pg&e -- i mean, we can be at par with pg&e. staff, did anyone, everyone is saying -- i just take exception to saying that it is a change from general managers. >> my understanding also the staff has met with lpi at least twice a month. is that true? >> yes, but the communication has broken down almost completely. do you mind if i take like 30 seconds to respond? >> go ahead. >> so, the key is that what's on page 9 is not the same model. >> okay. >> doe