my name is nancy rubin. i i'm representing a group of retired and former department heads, nonprofit organization executive directors, and other people that have worked tirelessly over the past 40 years in both the adult and juvenile criminal justice system i know a few of you. i was a former c.e.o. of edgewood centre for children and families for about 20 years, most recently prior to that i also ran the jail health services in the seventies, eighties and nineties and worked in the san francisco health department. our group is called taxpayers for public safety, an unusual name, but we are all retired and we are looking at issues as taxpayers and as people who know a lot about the system. a lot of our efforts have been focused on the adult jail system , and we are very successful a number of years ago and making sure that san francisco did not build an adult jail. the deal we are focused on is a bit overcrowded. we applaud you, and really are very encouraged by the move to move out of juvenile hall. we feel