. >> joining us from florida is former deputy national security adviser and ambassador, nancy soderberg, who also served as former ambassador as well representing united nations in 1997. looking at the transcripts which have been released of the telephone call between president trump and the president of ukraine, how often do you sit in on something like that with president clinton? guest: hundreds of times. in the oval office, air force one, and it is fairly normal to have one at least, but usually several people sitting down, and the situation room is also wired to take notes and translators. when a president is on the phone with a foreign leader there are a lot of people who take notes and basically send it around the government so everyone knows what was happening. in this case it was put into a secure server so it was not handled in the normal process. of course now it has come out. secrecy does not work in those situations. host: dozens of people listening in, how many people are involved for the preparation of a typical phone call between a president and another head of state? gu

nancy soderberg, she also served as deputy national security adviser to president clinton and was theed at the national security council, the heart of policy making at the white house. with those credentials i very much welcome you. i know that you've met marie yovanovitch, as you watched this, what struck but the way she handled this very awkward position in which she was put? >> well thanks for having me. i think ambassador yovanovitch epitomizes the best of our foreign service. who get up every day, do a job and defend the constitution and what you're seeing is this parade of career patriots, really. stating the facts as they see them. they're refusing to fall into this false narrative being put forward by the president and his supporters. and they're just stating the facts. and i think the republicans are going to have to decide are they going to continue to try and obfuscate, or are they going to just eventually have to say, it was okay for the president of the united states to try and bribe the ukrainians for his personal and political gain. and it's ultimately going to come dow

. >> joining me now, former ambassador nancy soderberg and former deputy assistant secretary of stateuben. ambassador, as you look at the diplomatic core and the national security core that came forward in the last two weeks, how did they do? >> well, they were the pinnacle of what american public service stands for. upholding the constitution, telling the truth, not being intimidated. and i think all americans should be grateful for the fact that they are getting up every day and defending american interest. and that came clear after a parade of one over another just came up and said i was advocating for american national security. i think my favorite line is fiona hill said i was advocating for our national security and sondland was on a domestic political errand. and that says it all right there. >> who articulated it the best do you think, joel, when it came to not only that point but as well as the conversations and the data that -- and the facts -- that were necessary for this deliberative body to consider? who do you think hit it best in terms of those who came forward from the

ambassador to the united nations nancy soderberg. she served as deputy national security advisor under president clinton. ambassador, good to see you again. thank you for joining us. we are learning a lot about what these various people at the state department, at the department of defense, our ambassadors, and people in the white house gleaned from not just the phone call in question between president trump and president zelensky of ukraine. but all of the stuff going on around it and we are getting a much clearer picture of the elevated role that rudy giuliani had in advancing the president's needs in ukraine. that in itself is damning because rudy giuliani does not work for the u.s. government. rudy giuliani does not work for the state department. >> exactly. and i think it's very clear that there was a quid pro quo when president trump held up military aid for dirt on biden. that's pretty much been established and even the republicans are having a hard time running away from that story. they're going to have an even harder time s

nancy soderberg is a former deputy national security advisor to president bill clinton and she says the public hearings are an important stage in the impeachment inquiry. well it was like going from black and white to a full living color on a big screen it brought to life the career public servants who are having their courage to stand up to what they believed was wrong to come forward against instructions from the president not to testify and to lay out the facts which are very clear that the president held up military aid to ukraine in exchange for an investigation of the biden is the real piece of i think new news was more meat on the bones there was a little bit of news that ambassador bill taylor said when one of his staffers he had learned since his previous testimony had overheard trump and son linea vasser to the e.u. who's in the middle of all this talking to the president and it's very clear that it was about the biden investigation and they summed up the call saying that the president cared more about the investigation of the bidens than he did about ukraine that was made hea

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host: we have calls waiting for nancy soderberg. we go to tom, hollywood, florida, democrat.aller: i have a couple of things i want to say. ands despicable what trump mike pompeo have done to our foreign service. they decimated our foreign service and we lost so many of our good career professionals and it will take years to replace them. thatd it incredible republicans keep whining about closed-door hearings, and they are the ones that set the rules up into thousand 15. -- in 2015. guest: it is interesting because the republicans do not want to talk about the facts. they had the show of storming the hearing room when some of the people storming it had the access to be in the room. i think the democrats have set gatherthodical process, information in the private hearings and will now release the transcripts and have public hearings. all of the people who have been questioned in private will be questioned in front of tv cameras. the republicans have been in the rooms. there are three committees and republicans have full access and equal time. -- it has led from the president w

former ambassador to russia, and ambassador nancy soderberg, former ambassador at the nsc. let me talk to you first. one thing that comes out in these transcripts is that the folks piecing this together whether it's fiona hill that was at the nsc where you used to work or lieutenant colonel vindman or others, they're not getting the full story because someone is hiding the ball from them. because the people that are running the rogue operation are wise enough to understand what they are trying to do is probably illicit and inappropriate. do you get that sense from what we have' learned? >> that's exactly what happened. the career foreign service officers were shoved aside. the national security council process experts would make a recommendation to the president, and the president would agree to it and the career people follow it out. sometimes there's a political appointee involved in this. but the president shoved that aside and had rudy giuliani and some russian oligarchs and ukrainian corrupt goons who are actually now under indictment in the u.s. justice system, try an

. >> joining us from florida is former deputy national security adviser and ambassador, nancy soderberg, who also served as former ambassador as well representing united nations in 1997. looking at the transcripts which have been released of the telephone call between president trump and the president of ukraine, how often do you sit in on something like that with president clinton? guest: hundreds of times. in the oval office, air force one, and it is fairly normal to have one at least, but usually several peopleit

office that is a whole other process so let's bring in i'm very pleased to introduce ambassador nancy soderberg now former deputy national security adviser under president clinton of course the last president to be impeached she's with us from jacksonville florida thank you for your time ambassador what did you get out of today out of the fight pledge and sit and actually watch the process and see the partisan nature of this interaction well it was like going from black and white to a full living color on a big screen it brought to life the career public servants who are having their courage to stand up to what they believed was wrong to come forward against instructions from the president not to testify and to lay out the facts which are very clear that the president held up military aid to ukraine in exchange for an investigation of the bidens. but of the fact that present the united states would use our foreign policy tools particularly one to a a at risk from russia for his own personal gain and that's the question that's going to be before the house and then eventually the senate in the tr

also, nancy soderberg, former clinton administration national security official, talks about the national security implications of the ukraine phone call. then executive director gabe ross will share the findings of a new poll on public understanding and opinion of the u.s. supreme court. watch c-span's "washington journal" live at 7:00 eastern tuesday morning. at c-span.org, we are making it easier for you to watch c-span's coverage of the impeachment inquiry and the administration's response. if you missed any of our live coverage, go to the impeachment inquiry page at c-span.org/impeachment for video on demand. we have added a tally from the associated press showing where each house democrats stands on the impeachment inquiry against president trump. follow on our webpage at c-span.org/impeachment. it is your fast and easy way to watch c-span's unfiltered coverage anytime. >> next, a discussion on what is being done to combat extremism and domestic terrorism.

also, nancy soderberg, former clinton administration national security official, talks about the national security implications of the ukraine phone call. and then, the executive director will share the findings of a new marquette law school poll on public understanding and opinions of the u.s. supreme court. watch c-span's washington journal live at 7:00 eastern tuesday morning. join the discussion. earlier today, the chair of the house intelligence committee, adam schiff, spoke to reporters about the impeachment inquiry. he discussed the release of the first transcripts from the closed-door depositions and said the foreign administrations who failed to appear before the committee would be considered further evidence of the white house obstructing -- obstructing congress. from the capital, this is 15 minutes. chair schiff: good morning. today we had additional scheduled depositions with the

but let's take a listen to what former ambassador nancy soderberg said should be happening, versus whatch is we're outright keeping the oil. >> last thing we want to do is talk about taking oil from other nations. that's the talking point of isis, that we're there to take their natural resources. defend our interests in the region, which is not to take the oil, but to secure our interest in the region, which depends on working with the kurds, making sure we don't hand the region over to russia and iran. >> look, brett, you know the president said the u.s. may have to fight for it. i mean, what's behind this oil grab? >> look, we are in syria -- we are in syria for isis. that is the legal basis for which we are in syria. that is the basis on which we have built this huge global coalition to share the burdens. it is illegal to be in syria for the purpose of protecting oil fields or exploiting those oil fields to somehow make use of those resources for us. that just can't happen. you cannot take oil unless you own it and put it legally on to international markets. that's not how the oil ma