the brothers, for instance -- the raised in charleston, the mother, nancy weston, is enslaved in charleston until the end of the civil war. her son's, once their white father died, the grimke family basically cast nancy western out to live by herself in support herself. she's basically working, doing laundry. she's related to a free back family, but she herself was not free. as she's raising her blacks on, she's raising them to believe in this colored elite, as she called them. the colored westerns, who are her relatives who are free. when the civil war ended -- boys are in the early teens. nancy westham -- the boys -- eventually became -- written about -- in 1868. -- a system in any way that they could find. and so -- initially, but proximity to the sisters was -- paying for them -- this is eventually pay -- eventually start this correspondence with the brothers about how -- what schools they should apply to, where they should live, what career paths they can take. kind of become mentors to them. so that proximity and material way, at first, is a positive thing. on the other side, the issu