and let me bring the nanl here. let's talk about this one. guys, as i said in the interview there, i feel like this just sort of snuck up on everybody and now it's become one of those things that i think pence wasn't even anticipating the backlash. he's caught in a particularly tough situation because this is a guy with strong ties to the social conservatives, he's done something they really like here, and now the business community, another big pressure group on the republican side giving other indications. what does he do here? >> i think it's interesting he didn't hold a ceremony and try to trumpet it. he's stuck and obviously you have this confluence of events and that's why i think you're seeing pressure from the business groups. wait sounds like the law is it's not very well defined, that it's sort of unclear exactly what kind of -- what kind of things that this would set out. but i would point out these types of laws are nothing new. there's law even president clinton signed into law. >> where is the outrake on this particularly and no