they invited him to an event on nantucket island. he gave his first abolitionist speech. he was so effective at telling his other than personal story as a slave, that the garrisons hired him and took him on the road. was probably the most sought-after abolitionist speaker on the entire northern circuit. >> we have lots of folks waiting on the line to talk to you professor blight. let's hear from david. welcome. >> caller: hello, professor blight. thank you so much. i would absolutely have to agree with you on the importance of frederick douglass. i always considered that douglas was a member of a triumph vert of people who helped define america's reconstruction. i would be anxious to learn, to be the person waking in the political severe, and douglass in the severe. can you comment how douglass may have interacted with two people. we know that president grant was a great proponent as a president to try to elevate it? >> well, that's a very effective way of putting it. lincoln and military leader and douglass is the moral voice. douglass has a role in what you describe as

they vited him out to a big rally on nantucket island in august of 1841. he's only three years out of slavery. and there he gave his first public abolitionist speech. he was so talented, so effective at telling his own personal story as a slave that the garrisonians hired him, took him on the road and within a couple of years, he was probably the most sought after and famous abolitionist speaker on the entire northern circuit. >> we have lots of folks waiting on the line to talk to you, professor blight. it's hearer from david in pennington, new jersey. welcome. >> hello, professor. thank you so much. i absolutely have to agree with you on the importance of frederick douglasss. i've always considered that douglass was one of the great triumph vir rat of people who helped to define american reconstruction, and i would be very anxious to learn, i always considered grant to be the person in the military sphere, lincoln in the political sphere, and douglass in the moral sphere. can you comment on how douglas may have interacted with these two people? we know t