but when i saw that article, naomi campbell and i and bethann hardison, joined forces and wrote to thers of the america and the european designers to talk about, specifically, about this issue. what is happening? how come there were more black models in the 70s and 80s, and in 2013 -- >> that's crazy. >> nobody was using them. what happened was a lot of designers were having casting agents who do the casting for them. the casting agents now become the people with the power. >> trevor: the gatekeepers, yeah. >> and they said to the agents, "we are not seeing black models this season." as if they were a trend. yeah. so we were-- what we were trying to talk about was not calling them out or cancelling them out. we were trying to call them in to understand, are you aware on your behalf, on your name, what these casting agents are doing? before i call you any names, i just want you to know first. >> trevor: i love that, i love that. did they respond accordingly? >> it was palpable the change. >> trevor: i love that. >> palpable the change. so it's like if you see it, say something. so basic

you came of age at a similar time in fashion to people like naomi campbell and kate moss.r she walked in and the... she literally charmed the whole room. naomi always thought she was going to be a star from when she was a baby. you know, they really are who they are. authentic. enninful has tackled alcohol problems and depression. his father kicked him out of the family home for choosing fashion over the law. the pair didn't speak for 15 years. when you went to really dark places, how bad did it get before you came through? i mean, it got very bad because, imagine, here i was, you know, i lost one home, which was africa, you know, came to england, then i lost a second home when i was kicked out, and then i went into the gay scene thinking i'd found my tribe and, again, so many rejections. you've had four eye operations. i never had good eyesight anyway, i always had sort of —10 glasses, and i had four retinal detachments, four surgeries, each time meant three weeks staring at the ground. but what i also learned from the period, you don't need perfect vision to create. rumo

you came of age at a similar time in fashion to people like naomi campbell and kate moss.emember she walked in and the... she literally charmed the whole room. naomi always thought she was going to be a star from when she was a baby. you know, they really are who they are. authentic. enninful has tackled alcohol problems and depression. his father kicked him out of the family home for choosing fashion over the law. the pair didn't speak for 15 years. when you went to really dark places, how bad did it get before you came through? i mean, it got very bad because, imagine, here i was, you know, i lost one home, which was africa, you know, came to england, then i lost a second home when i was kicked out, and then i went into the gay scene thinking i'd found my tribe and, again, so many rejections. you've had four eye operations. i never had good eyesight anyway, i always had sort of —10 glasses, and i had four retinal detachments, four surgeries, each time meant three weeks staring at the ground. but what i also learned from the period, you don't need perfect vision to create

as a black person in many places and you see these pictures of you at the very beginning with naomi campbellou you didn't belong? what made you stay there? >> i didn't have a choice. i was discovered on the train on my way to being a lawyer, a doctor, african professor. and i was discovered on the train to be a model. and this whole world opened up for me. little did i know that i was going to be the token or the chosen one. and when people are in that world, normally, they're like, i'm good, i'm on my own." for me it wasn't enough. i had to bring people up for me. i had to bring nigh friend, because i didn't want to be the only one in that space. >> trevor: i love that. i love that. ( applause ) you brought people-- you incorporated the people. you created a community-- >> a community. >> trevor: that has shaped the way we see the world today. it wasn't easy. it didn't-- you know, i remember there was a tweet of yours that went viral, made the news around the world, and you talk about it in the book where you were in a pretty senior position at "vogue." >> i was the editor. >> trevor: there