can't cram it down people's throats all once but over time will kind of get there and this with naomi klein calls the shock doctrine which is use a shock to drive through unpopular policy use the euro sovereign debt crisis to drive through brussels and berlin sovereignty in effect over the rest of europe so it might go that way but i have one question on what you said earlier john about actually the u.s. is. i agree completely that we have an unsustainable pyramid of debt i agree the money does not stop printing money does not solve the problem this will end badly and it will be actually non-presidential a bad catastrophe so you and i are on the same page about that the question i have for you is about timing i think alice have consistently underestimated how long you can kick the can down the road maybe they are kicking the can down the road but maybe they can kick it out for a very long time and in particular if europe runs out of money you've got the i.m.f. which can borrow and ice-t. r.'s convert those to euro's and lend them to europe and then finally they can print s.t.r. so there's a

a chapter in the history of quebec it's a triumph of justice and equality journalist and author naomi klein weighed in on it too tweeting this is why radical movements are mercilessly mocked they can win and it's official quebec tuition hikes are history as gandhi perhaps apocryphally said first they ignore you then they ridicule you then they fight you then you win that's the power of nonviolent mass movements that's the power of organized people which brings us back to the united states organized money is in control there's no control there's no question about it our government our media our economy have all been hijacked by the corporate elite but i still believe electoral solutions are possible because i still believe that organized people can prevail as they always have often against what seem like impossible odds on the battlefield of american democracy. but that's only if we join together and get organized in the streets on the web and in a way that the media can't ignore that's only if we pick up where occupy left off moving people forward with a focus message let's face it politici

naomi klein said she said this is why radical movements are mercilessly. them are mocked they can win. why is it that you think that protest movements like this are mocked and what do you think just about what what she said there. well i think climb has a point here. it's very important to note that our movement was extremely organized was not spontaneous reliance on elaborate democratic mechanisms through but union democracy i talked to you about and this is why we managed to when we had demands we did not want the end of capitalism for instance we managed to have precise aims for instance and doing this to us and i can link it to a broader context which is why we were first able to mobilize students you know numbers and then gradually the thoughts about this issue between shiite group play states in a broader context of attacks on education on public services learns about what new liberalism meant we may not have ended well as we do we did have we did and tuition hikes and d.d.'s have been definitely a focus and really strategizing focused on a goal and

." >> the book by naomi klein. >> yes, and it put in perspective what these people were doing and howhey amassed this power over the last 30 years. then all of this started in chicago at the business school, right? so we started just trying to take off small bites of the apple by going to the school closing hearings, demanding the board of education come to these hearings. they were not. again, we have been appointed new world control board that are not accountable to anyone, and certainly not accountable to the community. when the committee would come and beg for their schools -- this is one of the saddest things. children, teachers, and that such teachers at first, but parents and community members begged for their schools. and that fell on deaf ears. people felt completely at empowered that if the decision was made, it was made and there was nothing you could do about it. in the first year we started, we got six schools take the hit list. that had never happened before. we change the way the board of education did things. the school board came to the schools. we said, he should com