is capitalism fundamentally at odds with the climate alas naomi klein and so on and this upfront special. in 201911000 scientists issued a chilling warning to the world they predicted untold suffering due to the climate crisis unless global society undertook a major transformation but almost 2 years on and there's been little if any meaningful progress on transforming how we all live and interact with the environment and climate change is getting worse global temperatures are rising not falling so is it finally time to launch a new and radical approach joining us to discuss this are naomi klein gloria steinem chair in media culture and feminist studies at wrecker's university and author of numerous books her latest one being how to change everything and cautious a one seattle city council member economist member of socialist alternative thank you both for joining me on up front naomi i'm going to start with you it's been 7 years since the release of your book this changes everything capitalism versus the climate where you argue for a system change in order to save the planet now in the m

because there are many people who've entered this debate, like naomi klein and others who say, franklyded because it is fundamentally exploitative? yeah, obviously, you know, pure free market capitalism with no regulation is a prescription for environmental disaster because that's been treated as an externality. it's not even part of the business decision—making, the health of the environment, if we don't have regulations. and so, clearly, an unregulated free market economy is incompatible with a sustainable existence on this planet. and that's why we need regulations, we need laws, and we need enforceable policies, and we need international cooperation to establish those laws and policies across the board. towards addressing the climate crisis within the framework of a market economy. as long as we have reasonable policies and, you know, we can have that conversation about whether a sustainable planet is ultimately consistent with an extractive resource—based economy. but we don't have time to remake the global economy. we've got to bring carbon emissions down by a factor of two withi

this is journalist and rutgers university professor naomi klein speaking ahead of the vote at a townting sponsored by the coalition of rutgers unions last week. >> ts tentative agreement is the product of a year-long fight for people centere altnative inhe pandemic crisis. when management turned to layoffs and austerity last spring, 19nions of t coalitionsf rutgers unions came together to develop in turn it of approach th saves jobs, protects the vulnerable, and centered the universities core mission of teaching, research, and service. amy: well, as of last night, all four unions at rutgers have now ratified the memorandum of agreement with the university by overwhelming rates, and it will be implemented effecting 10,000 workers across the university. for more, we are joined by two people who spearheaded this agreement. todd wolfson is rutgers faculty union president. and christine o'connell is president of the union of rutgers administrators- american federation of teachers, which represents 2700 administrative staff at the university. we welcome you both to democracy now! todd wolf